Spirit Calling: Messages from the Great Council of Light

Karen: [00:00:00] Karen? Yes, I think

Will: I hear spirit calling. Ooh. And it might just be the Great Council of Light trying to get our attention. Oh. Now, for you and me, it might be hard to hear the messages that the Great Council is trying to get to us.

So, thankfully today we have not won, but two people on the show that have awakened enough to be able to channel the messages that were so desperate to hear from them. Yay. And they've even created a community. Specifically designed for those that are ready to step out of their fear and live their soul's purpose.

We'll hear all about the spirit calling with the Great Council of Light and the messages from these beings that are trying to get through on this week's episode of the Skeptic Meta Physicians starting right now

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Pamela: Yeah. I'm coughing today. I know. Okay, here we go.

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Pamela: coughing today. I know. Okay, here we go.

Karen: Hey there. I'm Will. And I'm Karen, and

Will: this week's main topic finds us in great company. Yay. Pamela Downs and Lisa Roach are psychic, intuitive healers and angelic channelers.

They're also the founding partners of Spirit calling an online portal that offers a community for those who are on their spiritual journey. They offer classes from a curated group of soul aligned practitioners and tools to help you heal your body, mind, and spirit. They also happen to be channels for messages from their guide as a great council of light, and they deliver timely and important messages from the [00:03:00] council to humankind.

Welcome to the show, Pamela and Lisa, great to have you on.

Pamela: Hello. Thank you for having us on. Great to see you both.

Lisa: Likewise that it's an honor. Thank you. Yeah. Well, we're very

Karen: excited.

Will: Let's just get the elephant outta the room out there. The Great Council of Light. Tell us about them.

Pamela: Pamela. The Great Council of Light are our guides. They are a group of angelic, divine, infinite intelligent beings that, um, they consider Lisa I to be a part of their, their group and were honored. Um, but they literally have guided us to create our online portal spirit calling to help, uh, support humankind through their awakening journey.

So we call them our board of directors, almost.

Will: it's interesting that you're, you both channel the same entities, because usually you don't, you don't find that very often. we had someone that channels one entity, someone that channels another entity.

How is it that both of you connected with the same

Karen: [00:04:00] council?

Lisa: So the council is above individuals, right? It's, it's a collective of individuals that allow for, um, a, a higher vibration of message and urgency that is able to come through. So a lot of times people can connect with one. Mm-hmm. Right? With, with one person, or I should say one being one soul that can.

Sync up energetically with their frequency and allow a transfer of information.

Pamela: Um,

Lisa: we, after having done a shit ton of work, um, recognize that we're, we're just part of them in a human form. Yes. Right. So once you elevate to that point of understanding, then you're just like, okay, bring it. Whoever, gotcha, whoever's, um, aligned right now in this moment, just bring

Pamela: it.

And also, we have [00:05:00] signed up, you know, in, in a previous lifetime to come here together to do this work at this very moment on the planet, in this instrumental moment of awakening and, and consciousness shift to do this. So, There's that. Right. Were you working together before you knew that you were both part of the collective, or did you know individually and then you came together?

How did that happen? Yeah. So in 2020, um, right before 2020, right before Covid, I did a week long, um, plant medicine journey in Costa Rica with Ayahuasca. Mm-hmm. And I had been on my awakening journey since 20 0 8, 20 12. You know, discovering, trying to uncover like you guys, you know, everything metaphysical, everything other world.

Um, I was having lots of experiences with spirits and entities and other beings. And after my week long plant journey, um, experience at the, at the end of that week, I had this light come through my third eye light up my whole body. [00:06:00] My head was crackling, and I heard your psychic abilities have been enhanced.

Everything from this moment forward will be different, and then Covid happened, and instead of sitting in front of the tv, watching the news, getting sucked into that narrative, I, I knew it was time. I knew it was something greater. I knew I needed to go with him. I started sitting and continuing the work that I was doing with Ayahuasca and um, then I started experiencing ets and then I started having all of these paranormal experiences and channeling the great council.

I didn't know them at the time because I was ha, I called myself a galactic hotel. There were, I. All these different beings, all these different light languages, all these different frequencies that I needed to experience as I elevated and elevated and elevated to be able to connect with the Great Council of Light.

During that time, I woke up in the middle of the night and I heard spirit calling, spirit calling, and I was like, and because I had been woken up so frequently, In the middle of the night, I got up and I wrote it down. [00:07:00] So the next morning I bought the domain, and a year later I saw this little icon and a vision flying down on an iPhone screen.

And I got up and I sketched it. And then I realized they were the same thing. And I kept hearing, you're to build a portal, you're to build a portal for humanity. There's a glass ceiling that's gonna break, something's gonna happen. Humans are gonna walk around and go, who am I? What is this world that I believe in?

What does this all mean? And they need to see if. A safe space to land. And that happened individually for me. Meanwhile, Lisa had her own experience, which she can tell you about herself.

Lisa: Yeah. Simultaneously I was, I, I had already been working. Um, With private clients, helping them physically, but understanding that processing through the physical body was really enhancing your energy body and helping to strengthen that and clear that.

And that was the process of, uh, removing ailment out of your body. So I had already been working with private clients when I [00:08:00] decided to rebrand, and I, I saw Pamela's picture. And I went, oh, that's the woman that's gonna help me rebrand. Where

Karen: it's, where did you see Pamela's picture On

Will: Facebook. Oh, is it one of those things like, Facebook thinks you should become friends with this person?

Lisa: No, literally it was her new branding and marketing company. I don't even think it was an ad. I just think it was a post that happened to, I wasn't friends with her on Facebook. I don't know how it came up. It was just there as it does. Right. Just showed up on my computer and I went, yep, there it is. I'm supposed to work with Pamela Downs at at rev to rebrand Niari.

Okay, got it. And I contacted her immediately. And,

Karen: and what was Niari?

Lisa: So Niari was my private studio. Mm. Where I worked with people and through that process of rebranding, I had done [00:09:00] a real deep dive. I mean, who literally, who goes to a marketing meeting and saw. Do you, I mean, truly you're like, that's pick out colors and I know they're who I'm right.

And all of that. So, so from there I was like, okay, this is actually a deep dive into my soul. Like layers ripping off with every hour long meeting. And one morning I woke up and I heard create a portal to save mankind, create a portal to serve mankind. And I went, wait, what? No, no, no, no. I'm working on my, I'm working on a really pretty website.

They're like, no, no, no. Create a portal to serve mankind. Got it. Check. And we had a meeting that afternoon, and I'm telling you, I was like, much like today where I'm sort of shaking. Um, I went into that meeting shaking, not sure what to expect, and at the end I was fighting back tears saying, Pamela, I need to talk to you.

Um, we have. We have another [00:10:00] project to do. Not quite sure what that looks like, but apparently it's a portal for, to serve all humankind as they, um, go through their spiritual awakening and, and lean into their spiritual intelligence to help very rapidly build that, um, level of inte and conscious awareness so that they can go live a totally different life and from there, change

Pamela: the world.

She and I said, I know what it's called. It's called Spirit calling. She's like, I don't know about that name. I'm like, no, it's called Spirit calling. I got the download, I got all of it. It's called Spirit Calling. And then we started and that's how we started. And then, um, Lisa, I am. It was that weekend and I was part of a global conscious entrepreneur community.

I was, um, you know, kind of immersed in that culture for many years. And I had met somebody, um, that I was on a Zoom meeting and it was a new member to this community and he was up, like [00:11:00] his little zoom box was just bouncing at me the whole time during this meeting. And I knew there was something about him.

So I asked him to hang on and I said, I wanna meet you, let's talk. And I got on a call with him and he builds communities. He was. You know, instrumental in building and understanding the user experience and helping us create our community. So it's, you know, everyone who works with us, everyone whose spirit puts in alignment with us, has profound experience, has an upleveling, has a shift that happens within them because everyone on this portal is here to do this work right now at this really important time, and it's really beautiful to witness and to experience.

Mm-hmm.

Will: So then let's talk a little bit about spirit calling since we're on that topic. you talk about building a portal of serve mankind. what kind of things can someone find? Like why should Karen and I who are in this space, who are trying to be in this space and help share the message, why should we become a part of this portal of this community?

Pamela: Because you're [00:12:00] spiritually curious. You're meta physically curious. You wanna know what's what's going on. You're having experiences and you don't understand them. You have a community of people that are going through the same thing as you. You have a group of healers and practitioners that you can directly message and talk to, and they're there to support you.

You know, Lisa and I went through our awakening experience alone. And it was hard. I didn't have anyone to speak with. Nobody understood that I was, you know, having these experiences in the night or that I had questions about, um, you know, Akasha records or like, you go on this journey and you're devouring everything, everything completely all the time cuz you just wanna know more and you wanna know more.

We put everything together in one place. So all you have to do is join and show up, put put your experiences in the portal, write 'em down. People are showing up to say, Hey, I had that happen to me, or, Hey, I can help you with that. If you're having a block or you're having pain or you're having, [00:13:00] it's like, it's so, um, What, what do we say?

All encompassing, right? It's really, it's speaking to every need that someone has on their, on their journey.

Will: is it like a social media platform? Is it videos? Mm-hmm. Is it audio? What, what ki or

Karen: is it all the above?

Pamela: All above.

Lisa: Okay. So the, the way that I, I approached this and.

And Pamela, and I've worked so hard on this coming from a perspective of a practitioner, seeing people who would walk in to work with me. And there, there was this umbrella of service, a level of service that everybody needed, right? Mm-hmm. You needed the appropriate practitioners. You could stop stabbing around in the dark, and that's good referral system, right?

Who serves you best if you need something, um, in person, one-on-one, private, that kind of thing. Hands on even. But it's that special recipe that's unique to you of [00:14:00] practitioner tools and education. So it's like the, and from there, go ahead. It's like the Angie's List for the spirit world or for the, I mean, basically seriously.

Pamela: Yes, exactly. Whatever you need. The wings. Yeah. Put some wings on that, Angie, but yeah, exactly. Yes.

Will: Wow. Very cool. So God, there's so many, so many different directions. So many different questions.

Pamela: Choose one. Uh,

Will: uh, uh, so spirit calling the Galactic Council of Light, have there been more synchronicities or more direction after you create a square calling?

Has there been Hell yeah. Okay, so

Lisa: there was a, there was a w w e wrestler, I, I forget his name, but whatever he used to say, gimme a hell. Yeah. And that's my answer to that is gimme a hell yeah. Um,

Karen: hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Lisa: Yeah. No, listen. Uh, we have groups within our community that are dedicated to [00:15:00] delivering the messages that come through. So that's one.

One thing that we have to offer is, um, every day, all day, we are channels. We are open channels, so messages come in at any moment for any, anybody, and they just come streaming in and they come in very strong. Sometimes they're for the entire community, sometimes for they're for the entire world. So we put those on YouTube, but the ones on for the community go right into the portal directly to our community.

Then we have a group that is ask the Oracle. And I will you ask the question? I'll sit in a channel state and give you your answer.

Pamela: Hmm mm-hmm.

Lisa: Yeah. Should we go in that direction?

Pamela: I think we are going to go in that direction. Nudge. Nudge.

Will: Yeah. So I, I actually did want to go in that direction. However, before we do, we do need to take a break.

So we are going to take a pause, get yourself prepared, When we come back, we are going to go in that [00:16:00] direction, so don't go anywhere. You don't wanna miss this.

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Will: Welcome back to the Skeptic Meta Physicians. We are talking to Pamela and Lisa, who are, psychic Healers and Chandlers, and have created an incredible online portal, an online community called Spirit Calling. and before the break, we were talking about going in a certain direction that I. I'm very excited about, so I'm not gonna even mince any more words.

Mm-hmm. The direction is, I guess there's a lot of messages coming through. the Galactic Council is knocking on their [00:18:00] door trying to get some messages out. So rather than waste any more time, Lisa, I'm not gonna, gonna make you suffer anymore. What's coming True? What are you feeling?

Karen: I

Lisa: so appreciate that, because it really is hard. It's like, Um, holding a door closed that, that a whole lot of people are trying to shove

Karen: open. Mm.

Lisa: Okay. So where do I start? Um, will, let's start, let's start with you. So this whole covid thing is a huge momentous marker in your life. It is rapid clearing through your body. It's what Covid It's been all along. It's meant to burn through. It's why it causes so much inflammation. Hmm. So wherever you're feeling inflammation, it's all rising up through your throat right now.

It's, you know, um, and that needs to come out. So when you cough, spit it out, get that, get it out. It's got it. All of this energy wrapping up and around, um, your, your left, uh,

Pamela: tonsil and then

Lisa: up. Into, uh, the, the, the, uh, [00:19:00] your jaw, left jaw. Sorry. So now I'm listening to you. I'm, I'm actually listening to you tell me to tell you where things are.

Okay? So left console wrapping up around into your jaw and up into your ear canal. So put a little bit of peroxide. In your ear, just let it bubble, bubble, bubble. And when it's done, it'll will have helped clear that passageway for you. Oh,

Karen: great.

Will: I have been having issues with my ears being completely c clogged for a very long time.

That makes a lot of sense. For those who are longtime listeners who are part of our community, you've heard, you know that I contracted Covid while I was out a few weeks ago. and It's still burning through me. for those of you who didn't know, surprise got, got Covid for the first time in Hawaii in a, in Paradise.

So, there's a pros and cons to it, but, that's exactly what Lisa's talking about. So, sorry to interrupt you, Lisa. Go ahead.

Karen: No,

Lisa: of course. Um, say thank you to it. Okay. Say thank you to it because it's doing you a service. Mm. It's getting rid of all the shit that you should not be carrying forward with you.

That's the elevation that's happening for you right [00:20:00] now. So, um, you got a very specific, uh, message that says, allow for an extension of harmonic energy within Europe leveling. Ah,

Pamela: ooh, okay. Oh, what does that mean? That goes with that message from yesterday. I know. Oh,

Lisa: that's right. So, Harmonic energy. People try to find balance in their life, right?

Family, work, um, spousal balance, energetic balance. They're constantly looking for balance. You've upleveled out of balance and into harmony.

Karen: Uh, what

Will: does that mean? Yeah. I'm not sure I know what that

Karen: means.

Lisa: So, so, you know, you're always people, people generally start off looking for, well, I need to, I need to do 50%. Woo. Settle down, hold on, 50%. Um, working all the time. 50% living all the time, 50% doing my job, 50% with my family. This is now, um, how do I, how do I harmonize those so that I'm not constantly looking for [00:21:00] 50%?

60 40 is good. 70 30 is good, right? 80, 20, 85, right? It's all of these different harmonies balance. So listen to music. Okay. Listen to music and find those harmonies. Jazz music in particular would be really very good for you. It's finding that syncopated rhythm to find theri, and it reprograms your brain.

It's going through. It's gonna help out with the covid. It's gonna listen. The covid is trying to burn through your ears. You can pull down on your ear gloves. Sorry I'm talking so fast. They have so much information. Pull down on your ear lobes. That's gonna open up both ear canals. That's what they're saying.

Left. Left needs some peroxide that's gonna be in there. That helps. Clear the energy, but then jazz music in particular with a lot of horns. So it's more like, um, what is that being in New Orleans, that kind of jazz music, right? Um, the marching down the street that like runs through your brain. And starts to wake things up.

Will: It's so funny you say that [00:22:00] because I just picked up New Orleans as a market in my day job. Uh, it's brand, brand new. I, I didn't have, uh, responsibilities for New Orleans before, but now I do. So maybe well,

Karen: sounds like,

Lisa: there you go. So if you can get into the area and participate in a parade, That's going, she's had the rhythm through your body and put that new harmonic in your body and that helps you uplevel

Karen: much, much closer.

Yeah.

Will: You're, you're scaring me because just what happens that I also picked up New England and in New England I have a, big 4th of July parade that I'm in charge of now

Karen: coming. Oh my gosh.

Lisa: So it's that, it's that celebratory music, right? That's that it's that walking and finding the step will not be on the down.

If you know anything about music, I do. Right. You're always looking for that. Yeah.

Pamela: That's why they're telling you cuz you do, right? Mm-hmm. So I keep seeing lines and when you said, what is that? I keep seeing lines and like, I mean, one is outta balance or one's wiggling out away. It's like it's, everything's gonna come in and what, it might sound weird, but they sound beautiful together, [00:23:00] that sort of thing.

Everything will come in and, and work together in harmony. Yeah. Okay.

Lisa: So, um, you can, you can sit and listen to music, start tapping your foot to the downbeat, and then your snap will be in between. Go for the half beat and then you can do fun things and find the syncopated sentence. I don't know why this is so important, but it is because he's,

Pamela: cuz he can relate to music.

Yeah.

Lisa: Um, Karen, Karen, you're a little bit different. You're, you're a little bit different. You are, um, this is your message. You are about to adr, adjust to a new frequency to allow for an elevation of spirit and authority. So it's like, um, you're stepping into a new elevation of power.

Mm. And, um, the best.

Oh, right. What was scribbled here in like huge ass writing is, um, energy for the elevation of [00:24:00] spirit and abundance for all. Mm. And an authenticity of mankind. So no small job for you, it never is right. Um, to prepare your body, there needs to be a little bit of, a little bit of work to um, kind of clear out any kind of limitation that's hanging out around your body, okay?

Okay. And that is right. Lymphatic system. Okay? It's all starting up here in your right armpit, which you can massage. Um, a gua. Thank you. Um, So, uh, I don't know if you know what a guha is. It's, no, it's a slab of stone. Really thin, curved in nature, and it's usually used for facials, like it's really pretty.

Um, but you would use the rounded side and not so much the dip inside, but the rounded hump side to massage within your right armpit. You need to clear that lymph lymph node in your right armpit. Okay? That's [00:25:00] going to help open up the energy that's stuck in between the tiny ribs in your chest. Okay. You don't necessarily have to dig in here.

It's more just go to the junction. Mm-hmm. They're saying that this lymph is your junction. Okay. Hmm. Um, you can smooth, you can smooth out the tissue like this towards your armpit. Right. You can go from the center mark of the chest plate and massage out, but just make sure you clear through the armpit and, um, then it goes down, down to the right breast tissue.

For you. Okay. Okay. So, uh, keep an eye on that. I'm not saying there's anything scary, it just means it needs a little bit of massaging, maybe a little bit better support.

Pamela: Okay. Okay. In

Lisa: terms of, you know, like better. I know I asked, listen, I asked for, but that's, that's bra, like, that's, that would be, um, a side panel in your bra.

Okay. Scoop [00:26:00] and get that side panel up against your flesh. Okay. Okie dokie. Um, that helps support your shoulder. Okay. So right shoulder, any kind of tension that is running up, a little bit up the trap here, up the, up the side. Mm-hmm. But then going straight down, so in rather than going up into your neck, it's going straight down and creating this circle of energy that's getting stuck in the joint itself.

Okay, so good bra breast support massage up there in the lymphatic system. That all to open up your heart meridian. Okay. Okay. You can help that energy along once you've cleared your right armpit by massaging your, your right pinky. Oh, okay. Okay. It, it's a milking, you know, like, like, like you would extract milk from a cow.

It's the exact same um, technique. You just wanna milk it and pull the energy line out your pinky. Okay. Okay. So then you can step up and rule the world. Do you think you can handle that? [00:27:00]

Pamela: Sure.

Will: we've seen, the direction, there's been things that are happening in Karen that, that show us that, yeah, she's meant to rule the world.

so it sounds like a lot of the messages that you're getting are. Somewhat medical in nature. Is that traditionally what, what comes through for you?

Lisa: So what comes through for me is the frequency that you are capable of hearing and receiving in the moment. Right. So if I just said to you, Karen, you're gonna rule the world, do you think, do you think you can handle that?

If I started off with that of, um, you're in charge of, of elevating all spirits for abundance. Right, and awakening all mankind, it's a little daunting, right? Yeah. Just a smidge smid, daunting, you know? So rather than completely overwhelmed, give the tools, right? So then I'm told, give these tools. They're very pragmatic, they're very 3d.

Do these things for your body so that your body [00:28:00] can then accept the frequency of serving all of mankind, right? That's how we meet.

Karen: Yes.

Lisa: Do these things. It's all of a sudden it'll be like, what? Yeah, let's

Karen: go.

Will: Well that, makes it really exciting. Karen, I know that, you've got lots of questions because of what's happening through, so does it resonate with you?

Does that, does what she's saying kind of make sense to you? I

Karen: mean,

Pamela: it's totally different than,

Karen: I didn't even know what to say. Um, but I, I need to, how do you spell that stone? Like, I need that information because I have not

Lisa: heard of that before, guha

Karen: So

Pamela: yeah, we'll see. I mean, I just,

Will: I'm excited to put peroxide in my left ear and

Karen: find out how that

Lisa: works out. So I know.

Pamela: Fun for

Karen: a while.

Will: For a long time. Yeah. there anything coming through for our audience or anything that's, for society at large that we need to hear?

Pamela: Go ahead, Pamela. Well, there were two messages that came through yesterday when I sat down to channel. So I channel in a different way than Lisa. I, I'm not a medical intuitive. Um, [00:29:00] the guides talk directly through me so I can sit down and I can ground myself and then I can call in your guide. And then they shake my head up and down when they're here.

And then I feel their energy permeate my being. And then the messages start coming out and I do, um, Automatic writing on, directly on a keyboard directly into like a Google Doc. So that I do that. And then I also speak it, which I think you saw on the Nicole podcast. Mm-hmm. When you saw us that first time, that was the second time I ever channeled publicly live.

I did it on the podcast. Oh, wow. Um, but yeah, so I do that for our community. I have a group within our community called Channel Live Channel Messages from the Great Council of Light. They are constantly sending specific messages just to the community, just to our healers and, and our soul leaders and our practitioners.

Um, Just to members. And then there's messages that I send out via our YouTube channel that are for the whole entire planet. And they're, you know, they can be heavy, but they [00:30:00] are coming fast and furiously and the guides, you know, handle messages with kick gloves sometimes. And other times they're like, get off your ass.

This is, this shit's hitting a fan and you guys need to pay attention. I'm hearing, I'm hearing that's what's. That's what's been happening. Um, I mean, they've talked about world events that are coming. They've talked about, um, a massive like shutdown, a new current, uh, energy of currency That's to follow. I mean, they get very, very specific.

You can see those on our YouTube channel. Mm-hmm. And, um, I just try to honor them as much as possible to find the time, you know, we're all busy, but to find the time to make sure that I'm able to do this. So yesterday I asked, um, the question, what is the one thing you know that you would like to have answered during your conversation?

And they came out with something I have never heard, never said myself before, and I don't know why, but they talked about dynamic intervention. Which was like, what is dynamic intervention? So I asked [00:31:00] that, and this is that. They gave me this and then I said, I need a message for Will. So I called in your guide and said, And then I channeled a message that's just for you.

So you know we're gonna be transparent and I hope that's okay. But you can, you know, of course, edit out anything you don't want to be heard. We're open. So, awesome. Okay, so I speak it the way that I heard it, so there's inflection in certain specific, um, words for importance. What is dynamic intervention?

The diagnosis of change within a person's energetic being. Is calculated by our guides and intervention is obtained through the increased state of awareness being enhanced and directly accessed through the energy field. Now, does that make sense to you? Mm-hmm. It does. It's interesting. Yeah. One is able to access, retrieve and continue dynamic exchanges between carrier and the Intuit.[00:32:00]

You are able to access and retrieve West simultaneously, healing your body mind and being as a whole. You are not alone in your journey of ascension and awakening. This is for your community. For you are here with us and we are able to work together to retrieve access, to provide healing and resolution of trauma and carmic pain forever.

You are working through carmic pain and at this and in this point in your evolution, you will not need to work as deeply and as vigorously as you have in previous decades for you are elevating at such a speed. That your interaction will immediately be responsive. So to the people that are doing the work on the planet, to the people who have been healing their trauma, who have been releasing their shadow work, it's gonna get easier and easier because of where they are at the specific time on the planet.

Wow. An exchange of sorts, much like a battery and [00:33:00] knowing of one near itself, the action of moving towards each other. And dynamically enter and alter exchanges of frequency for you are not alone. You are in a constant state of evolution. One of mind, body, and spirit. Go forth and speak of the portal and the exchanges of spirit and body for your here now to elevate the planet.

You are here together for humankind now. I love them because they're like, Go forth and tell everybody about spirit calling. This is what they say all the time. They're like, tell everybody about spirit calling. Or like, okay, okay. We're doing it. You know? So that's to your community members too. It's like, it's to everyone.

That's the big job at hand. Go forth, go forth and tell the place. Um, it's interesting, right? And very, and I can send you these for you to post if people wanna read that again. Sure. That'd be great. Yeah. Yeah, it's very cool. So here, [00:34:00] would you like to hear the message for Will?

Will: I would. But before you do that, I wanna make sure that everyone knows, if you're listening to this, go to skeptic me com.

Go to our blog. Once this episode is out, we'll put. What she just read in that blog so that you can read it for yourself. cause I know for me, I hate to hear it and see it a couple times mm-hmm. Before it actually, sinks in. So we'll definitely do that. So now I'm a little nervous.

Pamela: You in the hot seat. Real quick, Pamela, real quick.

Lisa: Yeah. Just, just before you, before we dive into that, this makes everything make sense now. Mm-hmm. Right? Your community. Um, are at a point where they're able to accept that there's a brand new way to heal. Mm-hmm. And that you don't have to suffer and that, um, you can actually do things very easily and very quickly.

Hmm. Right. What's easier than massaging your own armpit and getting a good bra,

Will: putting bro out in your left ear,

Lisa: that might be easier cause you get to lay down. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. But [00:35:00] that's just it. Find the energy that is causing discomfort because that's the energy that's holding you back from elevating.

Yes. Right. That's what's holding you back from being able to raise your vibration and frequency to a level of complete and utter peace. Mm.

Karen: Yes. And

Will: so it's almost like, and, and I'm, I'm just internalizing it for myself, but for me, like as I'm hearing what Pamela was saying to me, it was more like, Forgive yourself for the stuff that you have endured in the past.

You don't have to suffer through that anymore because you've learned the lesson and you move forward and now you can elevate

Pamela: yourself. Yes, exactly. And you literally just summed up your message that you're about to get. Oh, nice. Because I don't know. Okay. So. This is, this is this whole world to me. I'm still diving in and so encouraged to be able to like, put these messages out publicly cuz I'm, I'm still learning it.

Um, I get like shy about getting so specific with things, but every time I just push and [00:36:00] power through it, it al it always works out somehow. But they use words that just like, they use the example of jazz music, the music references because they know who you are. They know how you understand and learn.

They use words that will resonate within you. Um, I always say, just take this, take this for face value what you hear. Open your mind. Don't just apply what you think something means. Go look at the words again. Read it like you just explained. Mm-hmm. So I find it fascinating when they use specific words.

They started out by calling you a dynamo. Now, that's not a word that I use either, so I think it's really cool. So they go from dynamic, you know, they go from the dynamic intervention into dynamo. So, To them. It's very, very important and strategic. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get dramatic.

Dynamo. Will is a dynamo. A dynamo. Oh, and one more thing. They did something different with me. They showed me things. They moved [00:37:00] my head. They're getting very expressive, so I type that out so that you can, you could understand what I was experiencing while I was typing the message. Okay. Okay. Um, use this word they said special in his ability to connect with others in a sincere and authentic way.

On the search for truth and discovery, he is to release the fair-haired one, let it go for it is not serving his highest purpose. It is the highest request that he honor himself and his beloved for. This is not his highest and truest calling. Be one with the ways of your future will be one with them. You have journeyed your entire life looking for answers outside of yourself.

For you are to go now within your being, search within yourself for the answers. Sit with yourself and look within. You are the keeper of all that exists. Assist where there is alignment. [00:38:00] Then I am being pulled up into the left. I felt like I was being pulled up into the left. I felt like my keyboard was shifted.

And I was being sucked up until the left. Then I saw a green light before my eyes. We sit around you will in glory and gratitude for for your work. Be it knowledge-based or wonderment. It is unveiling the truth. Slowly over time, each guest is triggering a stitch in the blanket that he is creating. If you're not for, there are many, many beings around you will at all times.

Do you feel us at night? Do you feel our presence? Then there was this green before my eyes. Now this never happens. So it was really cool. Then I heard the word Gloria. I dunno what that means. And then I heard the word Peter. I dunno what that means. And then I heard the, the word Noah one that looks for your attention.

Now that could be a guide. They, they could all

Karen: be

Pamela: guides. To the left. To the [00:39:00] left, there is one that sits with you looking for your attention. As I turn my head to the left, there is a teal color there to the right, there is white and yellow in front. It is whole and good. Be strong and know that you have the strength to dive deeper, elevating the planet with your soul's purpose of communication.

The frequency of your voice tells all that there is another way of thinking, of being, of seeing and living in this three-dimensional life. Now, they used that three-dimensional life. And then I went to like, listen to your podcast again last night. And you close out with that little saying all the time and I was like, ah, I love it.

I love that stuff.

Karen: Yeah. Now

Will: I gotta say I'm, I'm actually having, I'm, I'm struggling a little bit because, I never wanna show emotion that clearly, but I'm, I'm having a hard time fighting back tears. Uh, for some reason, I mean, I'm looking forward to reading this message again, because there's a lot that you're saying that makes sense, but people hear [00:40:00] the message and they assume one thing when I'm getting a completely different message that makes so much perfect sense to me.

So,

Karen: yes,

Pamela: I'm glad. I'm so glad I'm so, so, so, so glad. I feel like there's a young boy and I don't know why or what that means. I feel like there's a young, I feel like that's the fair haired. It's a young boy and I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's a guide, if it's, I don't know. So I can only tell you that, and I told Lisa that.

And she was like, whoa, I don't know what that is either. So you take it and you make it what it is and look at the words and figure that out for yourself. But I'm happy that I can do that. Get you a message. Yeah. Yep. That will

Karen: do that. Thank you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. You're

Pamela: welcome. You're welcome.

Well, it was exciting.

Will: I've actually been on spirit calling on your portal and I saw, I mean, the very first thing that we should talk about right away, you actually have this, downloadable thing, which, gives you the top five symptoms for awakening, right? [00:41:00] Yes. You download it and then all of a sudden you, you go through and you can check it off, so you know that whether you're awakening or not, and it, and it looks like.

I'm about halfway there.

Karen: What, what are the symptoms? Can you tell us? I mean, there's some of them.

Will: , the five are, it's, you're drawn to holistic and alternative ways of healing, which we know we are Karen. Mm-hmm. Uh, we're sensitive to certain foods and chemicals, which again, I mean, you talk about it all the time, Mm-hmm. the inability to consume alcohol and drugs.

now here's a here where it gets interesting. You can suffer from dizziness, headaches, and anxiety. And then you're less tolerant to certain people and behaviors. Mm-hmm. Uh, can you say check, check and check across the board? Yeah. So if you're feeling any of these five, first do yourself a favor and go to, that their website.

And we're gonna add a direct link on our show notes. So go to skeptic and physician.com and hit that link. Go to their spirit calling website and you can download this for yourself. So you can take a look and see, and then, and then explore around cuz there's a lot that you offer. Yeah. Move [00:42:00] towards

Karen: diving deeper

Pamela: into it, and we offer seven days.

You can go in and you can check things out, and you can go see what's going on. Yeah, it's awesome. You have to experience it to understand it. Yeah,

Will: and there's two different sections. It's for people who are doing the searches, and then for people who are already on the path and are actually healers themselves, they can join your community as well in that capacity.

So it's really interesting whether you are a seeker or a teacher, you got a place there. All right, well, uh, you have given us a lot to mu over and, if you, get a calling to hear spirit calling, I would urge you to go to the website and figure whether the portal, that community is for you. I would say if you're listening to the show, it probably is. Because it seems that we're pretty well aligned in our mission.

So, is there anything that you're called to share with our audience before we leave?

Karen: Yeah.

Lisa: Thank you. Um, it's, it's, and it's specific to that, to this, um, you're not crazy. You're not [00:43:00] crazy for thinking that you're different from the rest of the world. You're not, um, you're not alone in what you're experiencing.

That one that it makes me wanna cry. That's huge. Cause I, I feel the sorrow and confusion that people are going through. Hmm. And um, so when you're sitting, when you're sitting in a bar and you're going, well, I don't feel like having a drink anymore, but everybody's doing it so I wanna fit in. It's those moments sitting at a restaurant and everybody's eating all this fried food and I actually am sick to my stomach looking at it, but I'll do it to fit in.

Pamela: Hmm. It's

Lisa: all of those moments where you're trying really hard to fit in. Please hit pause on your life and discern for yourself what feels right, what feels good, what brings you peace. If you're among people who make you feel stressed, bring out your anxiety, then that is [00:44:00] not bringing you peace in your life.

It's bringing chaos into your life and getting you farther and farther away from peace. You're desensitizing yourself to peace, and that's the problem as a whole, that humanity is facing right now. Mm. We've desensitized our reaction to peace. We actually think there's something wrong with us. Like, I'm so bored, I need to be entertained all the time, sitting in silence.

It makes me insane. Right? I can't meditate. Well, there's plenty of ways that you can go about doing different things. Discern for yourself, what makes you feel at peace? Mm-hmm. Like that is a message that just keeps repeating, repeating, repeating. There. Typically when there's a certain vibration that needs to come through on a certain word, that frequency, that word has to get repeated.

Repeated, repeated. So they keep telling me, keep saying, peace. Peace. Peace, peace, peace. And the message of you are not

Pamela: alone. Alone. Yeah. Alone. Alone. That's the big thing.

Lisa: Feel you [00:45:00] resonate with being alone. You are not the battery.

Pamela: Yeah. Like the battery. Something

Lisa: you.

Karen: They're telling you

Lisa: that it's the opposite.

Go for the opposite. Go for the opposite. Mm-hmm. If you tell yourself, I am not alone, then go for the opposite. I am surrounded. I am supported. And just start following what brings you peace.

Pamela: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Just follow the breadcrumbs. Just come over and just do it. Like this is what I tell everybody. Stop looking at fear and letting it keep you back.

Step over it. Step through it. Push through it. Just do it, and you won't know why. You don't always have to have the answer. Just try it. There's fun there. There's opportunity there. There's excitement there. There's a whole new world, whole new way of being new friends, new everything. And that's what happens when you have a spiritual awakening.

Isn't that exciting? Yeah, no

Karen: doubt,

Will: no doubt about it. I can say from firsthand experience that it is, it is a brave new world, and it's exciting new world as you, everyone who listens to the show knows how skeptical I was of [00:46:00] all this stuff. Mm-hmm. But, as your message came through loud and clear, every guest is another stitch in the fabric.

that's exactly what Karen and I talk about all the time, that in the last two, almost three years that we've been doing the show, we've grown. Exponentially because the messages that we're getting from our guests are helping us. Mm-hmm. Um, and from what we hear, they're helping others that are listening to the show as well.

Yes. Thank you guys so much for coming and, and sharing of your expertise and your experience. Karen, you had something

Karen: that you wanted

Will: to say?

Karen: No, I

Pamela: was just gonna say, uh, something

Karen: that we do hear from time to time is people. Saying, you know, thank you for, for making me not think I'm the only one that thinks this way or not feeling like I'm alone.

So that is, that's a very important

Pamela: message to put out there. Yep. It absolutely, it's, it's a community. And, and thank you guys for doing your work to help. Like we're, we're both doing this, we're all doing the same thing here. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yep. We're all

Karen: trying

Will: to raise the vibration of the planet. So yeah.

Thank you guys for coming on, sharing everything with us. I look forward to. staying in contact with you cause I'm definitely gonna join Spirit calling and I, urge you all to do the same. we'll see each [00:47:00] other

Karen: there. Yep. Okay. Sounds good. Fantastic.

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