Unlocking the Power of Words: How Language Shapes Our Reality

0:00:00 - Will
Karen, what do you get when you cross a Hollywood psychic, an author and a TV host with a conscious channeler? 

0:00:09 - Karen
Someone I really want to know. 

0:00:11 - Will
Yeah, you do. You get this week's amazing guest, of course. Now, today, we're kicking down the doors of awakening as we dive into the essential guide to spirituality, the truth of love and the energy of the all. By the time this episode is finished, you're going to know exactly where to turn to for all the answers for your spiritual awakenings. This one is not for the faint of heart, so buckle up and get ready for a new breathtaking episode of the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm Karen, and, unlike Mulder and Scully, we both want to believe, so we've embarked on a journey of discovery. 

0:00:44 - Karen
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. 

0:00:48 - Will
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches. 

0:00:52 - Karen
And wait, you joined a coven. 

0:00:54 - Will
Yep, all in the interest of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical three dimensional world, we all live in. 

This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. So a few weeks ago I talked about oneness, about how everybody, just another version of you, everybody see out there driving or walking or being, is just another version of you in a different circumstance. Well, today, during my meditation, I got something else and it goes so much further than that Now I guess I mentioned. The difficult part for me was acknowledging especially if someone's across the aisle and thinking and doing things so completely different than you, it's hard to acknowledge or recognize the fact that they are really just you, in a different circumstance, different experience. And that's okay. But it goes deeper than that. See, when I look across the aisle, when I look at another person that is so completely foreign to me that their thoughts, their way of being, their upbringing, their actions are so completely, diametrically opposed to how I think and feel and live, the disconnect is hard to bridge. There's a challenge there, right? What I need to challenge myself with is not just reaching across the chasm and acknowledging that they're just another me, but there has to be emotions attached to that acknowledgement, to the realization and recognition. I have to just truly feel love for that other person, because by feeling love for that person, I'm actually feeling love for myself. I mean, isn't that what everyone's telling us? That you have to love yourself first. Well, what if loving yourself first goes way beyond what we've originally thought it was? What if loving yourself first means loving everyone first and only? Yeah, it's a little weird. 

In my meditation just now, for some reason, I saw somebody that I'm friendly with, but there's just something that kind of just keeps us a little bit distant, right, there's nothing, nothing, no animosity. We're fine, we're friendly, but there's nothing that brings us together unless we're in a social situation. Well, in this meditation, I saw myself suddenly recognizing him, like truly recognizing him as me, and when I greeted him, hello, I reached out and I hugged him, which is something we do regularly when we see each other. But this hug was different. See, this was I love you, hug, and not in a weird way, but like in a I recognize you, hug, I recognize you and I love you as who you are, which is love, which is me, another me, Guess that the whole Namaste thing. Right, I recognize the divinity inside you, or acknowledge the divinity inside you. I guess maybe that goes a lot deeper than I ever thought it did. 

So for this guy. I recognize the divinity inside him, but I recognize the will inside him and by will I mean me and I hugged him, reconnecting with me at the heart level, and it brought this incredibly overwhelming joy inside me for just that time where I was hugging him. And then it hit me that I think that's how we're supposed to greet each other with a loving hug that reconnects you with that soul, that part of you that has been separated for you from so long. So the next time you see somebody out there and you greet them with a hug, like we sometimes and often times do, or maybe you should allow your hug to go deeper, further, allow that hug to be a heart to heart connection with who you truly are, because at the end of the day, that's what we're doing right. We're connecting with another version of us, and if we connect heart to heart, I wonder if that would make the world a better place. Can't imagine how it wouldn't Welcome back to the Skeptical Meditations I'm Will. 

0:04:50 - Karen
And I'm Karen. 

0:04:51 - Will
And today we're honored, thrilled and extremely grateful to welcome back one of my favorite guests ever. She's a certified mindfulness meditation teacher as well as an author, a speaker and a TV host, and she's also able to use and translate words and dialogue coming directly from source or, as her books describe it, the all. And she's created four books on spiritual laws and principles using that channeled voice inside of her, and we'll talk about all her books in a bit. But essentially she's channeled the definitive how to guide for awakening the truth of love and the energy of the all. And she just so happens to have been the second guest to ever agree to appear on this show. It's way past time we welcome her back. Say hello to Laura Saltman. Laura, such a pleasure to see you again. 

0:05:38 - Laura
Thank you guys for having me back. I'm so excited when you asked me to come back because I know I was like one of the early adopters of this podcast and, being psychic, I knew it was going to be a huge success. So and I also knew, being psychic, that you were eventually going to have me back on. So I wasn't surprised when you reached out to me, but I was delighted to be back. 

0:05:59 - Will
Well, I like the term delighted, so thank you for being delighted, because we're thrilled to have you. We got a lot to talk about and we're going to talk about the power of words specifically because of some of the messages that you received, and we'll get into that in a second. But I want to talk to you first about the books. People who listen to the show regularly know that one of my favorite series is Conversations with God. I was an early adopter for lack of a better word of one of your books when you first came out and I read it and it was very reminiscent of that type. So is this what you're talking about, when the books that you wrote were they channeled in the same vein as Neil Donald Walsh? 

0:06:38 - Laura
Yeah, absolutely, because I remember listening to Conversations with God. I actually listened to it on audiobook and Ed Asner, the amazing now in spirit, ed Asner. 

He was the voice of A and I just really related to it and I remember distinctly that Neil Donald Walsh said anybody can have a conversation with God, you just have to actually sit down and have that conversation. And it just struck me that, okay, maybe I'll try it one day. And then years went by and then finally, when I was at my lowest point which is what happened to him he was at his lowest point I just started having that conversation where I started asking questions and then, to my surprise, I was receiving answers back and the answers were very different than the way that Laura would answer the question. And I just kept doing it and I would say it took me about 50 pages worse where I finally realized that I was having this conversation, that I was doing what Neil had done. 

So I always tell people that my all books, my series, the all is basically a modern day conversations with God, or a modern day, of course, in miracles. So it's my conversation with the divine, with the energetic spirit that runs through all of us. And when I met you guys back when I first was working with these books, the way I think about it is changed, even from however many years. That was the way I talk about the connection to source is very different. The understanding that I have and it took me not just my four books that are already out in the world, but I've been writing a fifth book, which is where all these words are coming from that really got me to a place with the recognition and understanding that, at the core of who we are, we're having a conversation with the part of us and the part of ourself. That is the divine, that is God, that is source, that is all, or whatever word that works best for you to describe that. 

0:08:29 - Will
I love that You're in great company with those two books. 

0:08:33 - Karen
So, when you're saying that you were hearing these messages back, but they sounded different than Laura, how did they sound differently? Were they feelings? Were they actual words, like a voice? That was a different voice, or were they just worded differently? 

0:08:48 - Laura
Did you ever go to court and sit in the jury box and there's a court stenographer there and they're just taking down the dictation? That's what I did. It was like a dictation. There was no stopping or starting. The words just flowed effortlessly onto the page and if Laura's talking, I say I'm, I say I have to stop for a minute. I'm always thinking, but these words just kept coming and coming and coming and every word is perfectly placed, the way that each paragraph is designed. I don't write that way. 

I've always said if I fed to write a book and somebody gave me a $10,000 advance, I never would have written it because I'd be like I don't know how to write a book. And I sat down and just started spewing out my life and the questions that I had about the universe and how it operates. The answers just came back like boom, boom, boom again, like a court stenographer. And so for me, that's how I knew that I had something distinctly unique and different from what I was capable of doing, and I honestly it wasn't meant to be a book, it was going to be a journal for a while and then, six weeks later, I realized maybe I had a book. And then, when I got to the end of the first book, I wasn't done. I had a million more freaking questions to ask. And there I wrote another book in two months and then at the end of that one I still had more questions. And then I wrote another book and that book came out. And even now, as I'm writing my fifth book, I still have questions. 

And I think what I've learned is that there's always going to be questions. We will always be questioning, because we cannot fathom for the life of us at such a deep level that we are more than physical human beings. So we just keep going like round in circles and so we go back to the same point and back to the same point until eventually you're like okay, I've heard it enough, I've written it enough, I've seen enough miracles, I've talked to enough people on the other side. I've done these incredible things in the world. There must be something to this. And eventually you kind of get to the point where you stop going 17 sets backward and maybe only go two or three or four. 

I don't know that anybody will ever get to a point where they're 100% so super confident in the journey and what they have and who we are, and I think that's okay, because I don't know that we want to be, because if we know everything, you guys, then we're not here, we're back in non-physical. If you have all the answers, if you've been listening to the skeptic metaphysicians and you have all the answers from you guys and you think you were enlightened, then guess what? You're still here. Then if you want to be back on the other side, then keep going and then decide for yourself that you know all the answers, because that's when you'll end up going back to non-physical. So if we want to stay rooted in our physical reality, keep questioning, because that's part of the journey. 

0:11:37 - Will
Yeah. So to put this in metaphysical terms, what you I mean the term that they used to use for this type of writing is automatic writing. You just kind of just sit down and just write and you're not thinking, just letting the words go through you. 

0:11:50 - Laura
Right, or channeling that's another word that people use channeling. 

0:11:53 - Will
Right, so you channel the words Now. Did you find? Did you go back and edit the book at all or did you just write it stream of consciousness? 

0:12:01 - Laura
Totally stream of consciousness. I never change a single word. When I sent it to the copy editor, I said to the copy editor do not change any words. You can change things that were grammatically wrong. You can question something that maybe I didn't hear it properly and make sure it was correct. You can put, you know, parentheses and anything that needed to be fixed. When it came to grammar, we fixed and changed. Everything else is exactly word for word. And we're now talking five books of word for word dictation. And if you look at A Course in Miracles, a Course in Miracles was a word for word dictation as well, and that book is what? Thousand, a thousand or so pages. 

0:12:39 - Will
Wait a minute. Not only that, you guys. 

0:12:41 - Laura
It's not just my books that I have and the books that I've written. I channel quotes every single day and I have been for coming up on five years. So what I do is every morning when I get up I sit at my computer and then I ask a question and then the words just come out. And then that became last year. I started not only channeling that quote but now I channel numerology. So I get the numerology of the day and I find something about the numerology to talk about. 

So like words are just coming and coming and coming all day long within me. And I want to say about the word channeling because I'd love to switch everybody out of it being that you're channeling it into the word we're sourcing. So that means that at the core of who we all are, at the core of who we are, we are all the same, right, we're one with that source. So when we are channeling, we are just sourcing through words. So we are becoming the aspect, the part of ourself that is the divine and physical body, and then the words come through. So everything's channeled in a sense, because poetry, music, movies, tv show, books all of that is us sourcing. Now, some of it's coming from fear, and a lot of it's coming from the divine. It's coming from the aspect of ourself that is love. So, all day long, every day, we are all sourcing as the divine. 

0:14:06 - Will
As opposed to outsourcing. Outsourcing correct. 

0:14:10 - Karen
It's so interesting because you're talking about just the volume of the words kept coming and coming and it's kind of the same thing you hear about. You know, edgar Cayce. I mean he luckily had someone writing it so he was just speaking, but it's like volumes and volumes and I don't know, I guess maybe just once you connect there's so much that it's just like a funnel just coming through Infinite. 

0:14:28 - Laura
It's infinite. You could, I could be here for another 50 years and I could probably write 10, 12 more books, because the information will just start to flow through. But at the core now, what I've realized is, going back through it and even going back through my quotes, as I'm creating a journal from some of my old quotes I realized that as a core of every single thing you're channeling, it really is the same thing said in 15,000 different ways. So at the core, I think it's actually very simple to understand who we are and why we're here and what the rules of this universe are and the laws that we and principles that we live under collectively and individually. 

It's the hard part is life, because life is always happening to us. You know, there's the minute that you think you've got it all figured out. Then life throws you a curveball and then you got to figure that thing out. So as soon as there's the hiccups, we go right back to questioning it all and we get sucked into human life and all the the human thing that goes on and we forget. It's that and I called the amnesia of the soul. We forget all our spiritual knowledge and then we're right back to life is hard. 

This is difficult and and that's where I think these words that I call the source dictionary, the words word using, and obviously I'm an English language speaker, so when I'm translating word, I translate in English. But if you speak Spanish, if you speak Swahili, if you speak French, whenever you speak, you too have access to translate words down to brass tacks. That's what I'll call it. Like what does it really mean? What does that word like? What does love really mean? What is the word soul? What does the word question mean? All of these words that we use in in modern English every single day. You can break them down into into what source would say it is Like what does the universe tell us about a specific word? And that became really interesting to me because it made me see the world in a completely different light. 

0:16:27 - Will
Oh gosh, you just, oh, my God, you're bringing up all these questions in me now because I do want to touch on these words specifically that have come to you, because we all do. I mean you're. I feel very seen by what you're saying. Like we get caught up in our everyday life and words have incredible power and a lot of people don't realize how powerful the actual word people used. Like Karen laughed at me when I said I was no longer going to say good morning, right, because it has morning in it, and now I say grand rising. And she still laughs at me every morning when I say that now. 

But it goes deeper than that. Right, you actually sourced these very powerful words, and I want to dive into that a little bit now. How did you come to realize that some of these words that you were sourcing had this kind of power? 

0:17:12 - Laura
So it started when I was channeling all these different quotes and the word would come through and within the quotes. A lot of times I'd be channeling that quote through and then they break a word down into something else and I'd be like, oh, that's interesting. So after a while I started taking them out of my quotes and just sticking them into a book, like knowing that at some point I felt like a little dictionary was going to come out. And then over time and I'm thinking like it's probably been at least two years I started look, I even have the paper. So for people who are watching the video, like, these are all the words. There's hundreds of words that I've written out and as they come to me I just start typing them out so that I have them. And just a couple that I think really drive the plate home is one of my favorite words is why. And when I was typing a quote, one day the question came out for why. And then here it comes through and says why is what hurts you? I was like, oh, don't ask why, because why is what hurts you? And that really got me at my core, because when we're in, why we're out of our divine self. It immediately put us into separation. 

And then the other word that goes with that is the word hard. 

So when you say something is hard, essentially at the core you are having a repeated dilemma, meaning that we think things are hard because we have this past evidence that something has happened, something bad has happened, and we decide from the past that something in our now is difficult. 

So when I heard that, I was like, okay, I need to stop drawing from my past to decide for now. So if I say I want to create something, I'm going to create a new book Immediately, I say, oh, it's so hard to create a book. I have just jumped into the pool of the past for that decision. Because if I knew nothing, if I was only in the moment of now where we know absolutely nothing, I wouldn't think it was hard, I would have no idea. I'd just be like I am going to create a book, okay, and then from there I would start to figure out how to create that book. So those two words if that's all you get out of this conversation today, not to use the word hard and not to ask why, then you're going to be doing better tomorrow. 

0:19:24 - Will
Because you are living in the past and the now, like Eckhart Tolle's talking about back there, exactly that makes perfect sense and I saw you did with the H-A-R-D. I caught on to it. I don't think I did. You also mentioned something about specific words like illnesses, for example, like cancer and things like that. Should we not be using those terms, or what's the deal? 

0:19:46 - Laura
No, it's not that you can't use them, it's that every word has, I'm going to say, clues within it as to what is actually going on and how do we manifest that illness. Because I believe and this is in A Course in Miracles and this is in Neil Donovan Walsh's book, and Louise Hay was a pioneer in this, and I truly have learned to believe that all illnesses begin at the point of mind. So what we're thinking and believing, based upon the life that we've lived, from the moment we took our first breath on earth, as well as what I call your pre-consciousness, meaning things that happen in other life, which we deemed as past lives, I call it pre-consciousness. So there's things that happen in your pre-conscious state that may be impacting your life and may be impacting your physical reality, or there's something that, at a pre-conscious level, you decided for that was going to happen to you in your physical body in order for you to grow and evolve from it. 

So different words can give us little clues, so just a couple of them that I actually channeled recently was the word lupus. So we know that many people have lupus, and when I say spirit, it's basically the way I translate that it's me becoming the divine. So it's Laura's speaking as spirit where I tapped into the universal consciousness, the love consciousness, the only mind, the only mind that exists to bring these words through. And lupus broke down to letting unconscious priorities usurp soul. And I thought that is so interesting because what that tells me is that lupus, at its core, is about us being conscious like busy, busy, busy. We prioritize everything else and everybody else over our health, our happiness, where we want to go in the world. And I just thought that was really interesting because I know some people who have had lupus and when I look back at their life I thought, oh my God, that really does make sense. These were people that were like hustle, hustle, hustle, that I do, I got to do, I got to do, and they would put aside everything else that they want to do for themselves, either to serve somebody else or to serve their agenda, like they had this big agenda. 

And then the other one that kind of is related to is the word lung, and I loved when it was broken down into learning unconditionally nothing good. That's really funny because, at the core, our lungs are really the breasts of life, and so when we're seeing the world through the lens of anger, fear, frustration, rage, animosity, comparison all of these things. We're impacting our lungs and that's where our stress is right. We get stress and anxiety right in our lungs. So it's telling us like, okay, I need to take a breath, I need to be joyful and happy with my life and not be so anxious and angry all the time, and then from there my lungs can start to clear up and I can start to breathe better in the world. 

0:22:40 - Will
It's interesting that you are taking a word that, like you said, it's breath, it's life, it's what keeps us alive, and you got some messages that I mean they kind of skew towards. I don't want to say negative, but it's not a positive image. Right, you're having what you just mentioned, but there have to be some words that will bring positive connotations to the conversation, right, let's dive into some of those. 

0:23:06 - Laura
Of course. Well, I mean, the word that comes to mind immediately is the word love. So when you break down the word love, it becomes lifting our vibrational energy. 

So as soon as you shift into love, we are raising our vibration, and that's how we lift ourselves out of the chaos of the mind is by raising that vibration, by coming back to love. So everything is, and when words do get broken down, most of that is to bring us back to love. Because what I've learned through my books is this idea that we are here on the planet of earth, we've chosen to come here in order to learn about love through the lens of fear, which means that everything that happens and occurs here on earth is to get us to be reminded that we are meant to love, that we are meant to be kind and compassionate and loving to one another, and whatever is showing up in our life, that is fear, and fear can be broken down into all sorts of subsets of emotions. It's basically us in separation from that love of which we are. So as soon as you come back to that notion of love, as soon as you raise that vibration, then you start to kind of get like the information and the downloads about how can I move that fear out, how can this situation help me in my life, how can I start to discover that I am love, how can I be more compassionate and I know for me, you guys, that by doing the work every single day for the last 10 years I have changed at the core who I am and I always like to tell people I've probably told you in the last show so you can always go back to refer to it I said in high school I was voted the biggest complainer. 

That was like number one. Laura got a little certificate that says biggest complainer, because I complained about everything and I was always comparing myself and I. You know my self-esteem was so low and I was so hard on myself all the time. And since I've been doing this work over the last 10 years, I am the most compassionate, empathetic, understanding person. I look at things through the lens of source. I try to see things differently. I try to look for the lessons and everything. I want to help people, I want to guide people. I don't want to judge people. I want to try my best not to judge people, although sometimes the human does come out. 

And I've noticed that the more consistent I am, the faster and quicker I change and the faster and quicker I shift when things are going on. And I've even seen that change because five years ago the way I was reacting in the world was different, and so my healing time took a lot longer. But now I'm so hyper-focused, when things go awry, to looking at the lesson within it, to coming back to the knowledge that I am a spiritual being having a human experience, and I am connected to the divine. It runs through me and I have access all the time all using that word, all all the time to that information and I use it. And if people, if we just start using that information more and more, you're going to find that you change at the core of who you are, and who you were five months ago will be different than who you were, just by saying yes every day to showing up for yourself. 

0:26:21 - Karen
Something that has kind of popped into my mind as you've been speaking, and I'm hoping you oh, you were sourcing it through, Karen. Well, I'm not sure. 

0:26:29 - Will
I would not be surprised actually so. 

0:26:33 - Karen
if our consciousness is divine and this incredible, perfect spiritual being, why would we need to come here to learn any lessons? What could this little tiny earth teach this already perfect spiritual being? 

0:26:46 - Laura
Well, I'll tell you what I've sourced through in my books. And that is so. When we are in our consciousness, right when we're in our non-physical, and we are in that state of being, imagine if every day of your life was perfect and nothing ever went wrong and it was just magical and Glitter, farts and sunshine, rainbows all the time. Don't you think that would get a little bit monotonous and boring at some point? 

0:27:17 - Will
wait, did you think glitter farts? I have to call it out because I I think that's the first time we've ever heard the term glitter farts on the show. 

0:27:25 - Laura
So well, I like to give credit where credit is due, and I heard it on from somebody on clubhouse one time and it made me laugh. 

0:27:31 - Karen
So I don't want you to think that I'm trolls, isn't it? 

0:27:35 - Laura
Actually it was somebody who was like a spiritual person and I'm we're making a joke about Something similar, so I just thought it was funny. 

0:27:43 - Will
Well, whatever it is, I'd much rather glitter than the alternative. 

0:27:46 - Laura
I mean, if you're gonna fart right, let's fart glitter. 

Exactly it comes down to listen like this this journey that we are on as sometimes horrible and tragic, that it seems, is Meant to be fun, like. It's meant to be fun because when you're in non-physical and you are just that consciousness, you're not able to eat, you can't like hug, you can't have intimacy with anybody, and so why not go into physical bodies to have physical Experiences? So we're here on earth and other places to have those physical experiences because at the core of who we are, we chose to be here and in our spiritual mind it actually is fun. It is just our human mind that cannot comprehend that all the chaos and crap that goes on on earth Can be fun when we see so many horrible things here. But as soon as we cross to the non-physical and we get close enough back to that truth, you're gonna look back and go oh, my god, I totally get it. 

It's kind of like and Neil's on a watch talked about this in the course of miracles. It's like a video game. So you're trying to like, you're inside the video game and you're playing different levels and you know, like, in the first couple levels it's kind of easy and you eventually figure it out and then you get to the top levels and there's more tools and there's more things coming at you and it's all like it could take you a year, two years to get to them as upper levels and then eventually, when the game is over, you either keep going or you start over again, and so what happens is in our non-physical it's the same thing. It's like once you get through the game, you get to the side. If you want to go play it again and how you felt about it and it was fun. So if you can start to look at it like life is just a game and we're playing it and these are just the levels I'm getting through, it would give you a very different perspective. For me it's much easier because I am a medium and so I talk to people on the other side like every day of my life and so I hear Proof from people on the other side of what I'm talking about. 

Because some days you look at shit that goes on on this planet and you're just like there is no frickin way, and sometimes even in my books I ask questions like like I get mad. I'm like this is frickin bullshit, like who set up this system? This system is absolute crap. Like you see something horrible happen to somebody or you see someone's you know child get injured or pass away, and then you're like, why, like, why? Why would God, the universe, source, the all want us all miserable and pissed off? And the answer Will always come back to the same thing, which is when you cross into non-physical, when you discover that you are truly a divine being, that you are not just that physical body, it's all gonna make sense to you. 

And you'd be surprised how many times you will say yes to coming back to earth, because once you've realized it was a game and now you get to Play it over, you're just gonna go out. Okay, I'm gonna do that, I will do it. I mean, I can't imagine. I keep saying when I'm done with earth, I'm done with earth, like I am never coming back here. And spirit always pops in to say, well, we'll see when you get here, like we'll see how you feel because you're, you're losing the human part of yourself. And when you come back to your non-physical and your spiritual part of yourself, you're gonna have a full different Experience with it. It's just gonna look different to you. We cannot comprehend as a human right now. 

0:31:00 - Karen
It's such like a contradiction, like a grasses greener sort of thing, like the spirit wants to come out of experience, but we want to get the hell out, you know. 

0:31:06 - Laura
Over there. No, it's better over there, no it's better. 

0:31:08 - Karen
All right right. 

0:31:10 - Will
Now again going going back to the word love for a second, because you've mentioned something that struck me and I've got to call it out, because, karen, the you're here to raise the vibration of the play again, lord. Well, you may not know, karen is all about spreading the love, she's all about that, and I mean, no matter what she does, where she goes, who she sees, it's all. She's motivated by love. And that makes perfect sense to me in Perspective to what you just said, right, that that we're raising everyone's vibrations. So, karen, I knew that's your mission. You're here to raise the vibrations of the planet. So thank you for doing the very hard work that you're doing. 

0:31:48 - Karen
Well, that's all our mission, it is. 

0:31:52 - Will
Shouldering that and taking it up more like like a good soldier. So thank you for that. 

0:31:56 - Laura
Well, there's another. I have some other break ways to break down love, because sometimes work can get broken down into different things and that is and this one I really love which is love is life's only vibration. Everyone Like love is really the only vibration that exists. All the fear stuff and I know you've heard this on skeptic metaphysicians that fear is false, it's not real, it's not really happening to us. So really, only what is love is real and true, and all that other stuff is just like not, it's just an illusion that we're. I don't Like that word illusion, but it's a constant yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. 

0:32:28 - Will
It's a construct. It goes right along the line with, you know, michael Singer talking about surrendering and letting go. And why would you let something anything bother you? When you look at in, you take into perspective fact. We're a speck on an infinite universe, on this rotating planet in the middle of nowhere. When we take it into the scope of that, our troubles are literally nothing. So Maintaining yourself in the vibration of love and light and joy makes a lot of sense. 

0:32:58 - Laura
Yeah, joy journey of you. 

0:33:02 - Will
Right joy is the journey of you. 

0:33:04 - Laura
One of that, one of my favorite words actually, I just channeled out recently is actually the word question. So Question is the way to get out of your stuckness. When you question, that you shipped into an asking, right, so we, we live on this planet. That is a in this universe too. It's it's not just earth, it's also the universe that we're in is a ask to receive universe. So a question is basically the asking. It's the ticket to get the information. So that's how my books were created I was able to ask a question and then I received the answer. 

So when I broke down the word quest, first of all Ion at the core. In modern English it means to go like so. So when you put Ion on anything, it becomes to go. And if you break down Ion in spirit language it's infinitely operating now, right, so you're infinitely operating now when you go somewhere. But question when you break that down, it becomes quickly uncovering egos, separating tactics, because that's essentially what's happening here in our physical reality is our ego is there to trip us up, stop us, make us angry, make us frustrated. So the minute that we shifted the questioning, we are quickly getting rid of ego, which is trying to separate us from from love. So that's why it's important to question so and not a. Why right, not a? Why question wise, what? 

0:34:28 - Karen
hurts you like. 

0:34:30 - Laura
What are we here for? What is the journey all about? How can I move through this situation more quickly? What do I need to know? Those are the questions that are going to help unseparate you From who you truly are, which, at the core, is love. That's who we all are, the core of us, from Breaking us down to the the tiniest molecule. We are the vibration of love. So questioning everything is the way to go, and then even the word asked becomes a souls knowing. So when we ask, we are in a soul's knowing. The soul knows the answer. So when Karen asks the question, she's basically shifting into that aspect of herself that is soul, where she already knows the answer. Because at the soul level, we all know the answers inside of ourselves. It's only our human, our ego and our fear that trips us up. So as soon as we come back to love, then we can start to bring the answers through. That's how we all start sourcing information through is when we come back to love. 

0:35:29 - Will
So it wouldn't be us if I didn't ask an any question that everybody out there is going to ask Inevitably. I used to play this game where you pick a word and you just what are the letters stand for? How is that different to what you're doing? Just so we can level set for the audience. 

0:35:45 - Laura
That's a great question, because there's so many companies that use acronyms. There's so many coaches, especially like mindset coaches, transformational leaders, mindfulness. There's even things that you can break down in mindfulness that people use. The mindfulness stuff I would say probably is sourced through a little bit. This is different in that it's that same kind of like what's the word for the court reporters? 

0:36:13 - Karen
when they're doing. It's just a synoggrapher. 

0:36:15 - Laura
It's that same thing. The words just come through as I'm sitting on my computer. I wasn't thinking them up, it didn't take me 20 minutes to figure it out. I just happen to be writing out a question and then it just comes to me. Like I said, I have hundreds of words here and they all just got. They came out very, very quickly. One of them, as I look over, is flow. We always say to be in flow. Flow is follow love or over worry. When you are worrying about something, you're out of flow. Yes, there are people who could sit and they could take any word and come up with it, but that's not how these came to me. These all came to me through channeling. One of my favorite you guys is the word news. I laughed out loud when this came out. 

That is the news is standing for nonsense expressed without source or this is the best part of it nothing energetically worth seeing. 

0:37:13 - Will
Now, that is when I can stand behind for sure. 

0:37:18 - Laura
I think about that when I turn the news on that it comes back to me like the news is nothing energetically worth seeing. I love my time to it. 

0:37:26 - Will
I'm so so. I'm so stealing now. I'm so sorry to tell you right now I'm totally taking that, especially because that's where I cut my teeth Right. I started in the industry in news. 

0:37:34 - Karen
Yeah, it's your fault, yeah. 

0:37:36 - Will
Well, it was a very different. It was a very different experience back then. It is a totally different thing now. Let's not make this into a political conversation, yeah, but just just say both sides, neither one, nobody, is actually giving out news or they're each propagandizing their own way of thinking. But gosh, there's so many different words and directions that I want to go to. Can we, should we, be really careful with the words that we're using, because it sounds like if we're asking why, for example and you say you know words that hurt you, right, if it's unknown to us, if it's subconscious to us, why make these things available to us on a daily basis if we have no knowledge of how they can hurt us? 

0:38:19 - Laura
I think it's well okay, so you wouldn't leave a child in a room with like knives and scary objects and then walk away and not give them some resources to help, you know, get them out of it. So it's kind of like when we decided for our physical life. And what I channeled in and learned in my books is that there have been existences on earth before the one that we're currently in where we didn't have tools and resources, where we didn't have channelers and people who were writing books and shamans and mystics and things like that, like we had thousands of years ago, and what happened is because this is a planet of fear, we all just killed each other and the planet was in floating really, really quickly. 

0:38:58 - Will
Kind of like what's happening now. 

0:39:00 - Laura
Yeah well, eventually, spirit was, you know, collectively as the all, we all decided that if we want earth to make it a little bit further, we've got to give some clues to you, so we're not left here to our own devices figuring it out without the clues and the resources. So everyone who is awakening. So your podcast is a clue and a resource for people who are in the awakening journey, because that's what they asked for. But in the same vein, there are many, many, many more people on this planet who do not want to be woken up. You can say it to their face and they will look at you like you have 15 heads. They don't want to hear it, they don't want to know it. 

They've chosen the illusion, they've chosen to stay in it, and usually those are people who have some pretty deep lessons to learn. So I like where we are right now, where we do have the tools and resources and, as you've seen, the planet is shifting more and more into the understanding of consciousness and it even speaks back to numerology, which is like in the years of the thousands we lived in this singular idea, right that there was this one being now In the 2000s now. So in that century we started to learn about the oh wait, that God actually loves us and cares about us and wants us to be together. Nine months will be here in the 3000s, but in the 3000s. 

0:40:26 - Will
I don't know about you, but I'm planning on being here. Well, I'll be back in a different body. 

0:40:30 - Laura
Yeah, you might be like you'll be on Jerry and you might be Lucy, and I'll be pulling that. 

0:40:36 - Will
I am finding that fountain of youth. I'm telling you right now, in Augustine, here I come. 

0:40:41 - Laura
Well, maybe somebody will be watching us on this podcast in the year 3000 and 10, and they're gonna see how the planet has shifted now from this idea of the singular, where there was a God and God and we lived under God's rule, to the duality of there is a connection between us and God, to shifting now more and more into the idea that there is a trifecta, which is that there is this source that we have called God on this planet, that's the universe, whatever your word for it. 

Then there is that individuality within us and then we are a collective and as a collective we're here to take care of one another. We're still in our duality, which is why we see so much fighting and separation still on our planet, but eventually we will get to it and then in the 4000s you're gonna see, the Earth will be a complete, if we don't blow it up by then. But in the 4000s you'll see how now the curtain has really been lifted and everybody's understanding at the core, who we all, that we are all one, even if we are individualized. We get and understand and what I know as a medium and from speaking to spirit on the other side and individual spirit to have crossed over. There are planets that operate on a system of love, where everybody is still an individual being at the individualized level, but they recognize and understand at the core of who they are. They are all meant to be loving and kind and they take care of one another as if they were the same person, even if they're in different bodies. 

0:42:12 - Will
Oh my God, I love that, because this is the planet of fear. 

0:42:14 - Laura
That ain't happening on Earth. It may never happen. It might take thousands and thousands of years. But if we could learn to live in that state of understanding that at the core of who we all, we are all one, and so you might be well and you might be caring and I might be Laura, but at the core of us, individually and collectively, we are the same and we treated each other that way and we didn't fight and argue with new terrible things, then we would live on in a completely different planet. 

0:42:40 - Will
So you're saying that the polygamists have it right. That's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing that because it's just we're all about love we're supposed to sharing love with each other. No, all one, I just got stuck in a little Wilka. 

0:42:53 - Laura
There's only one thing and we all come from that one thing and a lot of us still believe in that separateness from that one thing. So we're still connecting to like the universe has my back To me. When somebody says the universe has my back to me, you're still separating yourself because you're in this idea that the universe is separate from you and it's helping you. Instead of getting into the knowledge and understanding that you are the universe in perpetual motion. The universe runs and works through you. So when you are asking for help, you are connecting to that one thing. 

I call the infinite supercomputer, the infinite mind that has all the answers for everything. And if we all realize that that's who we are at the every, when I always say brass tacks and we get down to the nitty gritty of who we are, there's only one thing. That is here and in fact, and of course in Miracles, it says you think you have many, many problems, but you only have one and that is your separation from source. So you think you are a separate entity from the divine and that's why you live your life the way that you do. But if you come back to love, if you come back to the idea that you too are the universe, that you are source, you are the all. Then we would act differently, think differently, create differently, be different, treat each other differently. 

Gosh, I want to live on that, glenn, don't you guys want to live? 

0:44:13 - Will
on that, Glenn. 

0:44:14 - Laura
Yes, let's go. If we could make that happen in this lifetime, when that we're all living, it would be so cool to be able to live on a planet where everybody was kind to one another, where everybody took care of one another, where money, which is basically just made up like the greed and power and all that that comes back to that. It would be amazing. But that's not the journey we signed up for. Right now on Earth. That is not the journey. 

0:44:39 - Will
Unless we all group together and say we are going to live this way and conscious communities are popping up all over the place. There's a place in I think it's Italy, right on the mountains of the Swiss Alps, where they are living like that as a community. 

0:44:58 - Laura
That's the thing. There is more people that are coming back to love, that are understanding that, but there is still so many who have decided for the separation. That's where we, as the awakening people, have to give them their grace. That's what they chose. They did not want to be awakened. You can't push, force, prod them into understanding it. You can only hold space for them and be an observer. All of that Because, at the end of the day, if we do all as a collective, every single one on this planet, every what is it? 

8 million people on this planet if we all remember who we are and stayed there, then we wouldn't actually be here. We would be all be back into our non-physical. That's where it's like get to the understanding. We chose the illusion. We said yes to this experience. No matter what the roller coaster is about, let's just enjoy it. Come back to when those hiccups occur, just be like okay, I chose this At this level. I chose this. I know when I get back to my non-physical and I'm going to figure out why, I don't know why right now we could live so much more happily on this planet. 

0:46:04 - Will
You're saying we owe a big debt of thank you to those who are digging their heels in the sand and saying no, no, I won't go because they're keeping us here Right, Exactly Because they're keeping us. 

0:46:15 - Laura
In fact, what I've written in my books is that at some point on other planets and you guys get this because you guys are in the skeptic manifestations but if you say that to this, to other people, they think you're total whackadoo. 

0:46:27 - Will
Just the word alone, skeptic manifestation, makes us feel like people think we're whackadoo. True. 

0:46:34 - Laura
But at other times there were other planets where there were collectives that did the physical experience, that learned who they are and then vibrated back to their non-physical, and now those planets are lonely planets. So there was some sort of life on those planets that did exist for whatever time frame, and then eventually, once the collective did get to the end where they understand who they were, everybody in the collective left, and now we're left with a lonely planet. It is very possible not in our lifetimes could be 3,000s, 4,000s, or it could be that we have to start all over again, but it is possible that Earth could eventually become a lonely planet where we did learn all the lessons that we needed to learn, and then this planet would be the end of it, and then we'd go somewhere else and we're living on some other planet, in some other places, because, at the end of the day, everything's infinite. There's infinite places to be, there's infinite ways to be, there's infinite experiences and we're only going to know, we're only going to truly know and understand when we get back into our non-physical aspect, right? So all of this sounds great and we can try to live this way and we try to embody it as best as we can, but we're not going to know it 100% until we hop back out of these bodies, these little borrowed bodies. 

So my theory, though, is like if we just live, even if we can at least embody some of it, I really do think that we can change our level of happiness. I think that we can wipe out some diseases that don't need to happen on this planet. I definitely think we can get rid of some of our own issues and ailments if we come back to embodying that part of ourself. I think that we can all start to discover how we're all connected to people who are in spirit and how we can communicate with people in spirit, and we'll start to realize that we're all truly channels or sourcing information all day, every day, and at least if you get into that knowledge, you can have a much better experience on Earth, and I know because I'm living that experience and, trust me, it's much better than being unhappy and miserable and depressed and anxious and frustrated and comparing yourself and worrying about every rate goal and worrying about every dollar. All that stuff that does not sound fun to me. 

0:48:53 - Will
Yeah, and it sounds like you and I have had a parallel path. Let's put it that way, because I've learned the same thing during this show. I've learned it's much nicer to live with joy than it is to live in fear. Laura, I feel like I could talk to you forever. I mean, we haven't even talked about we started getting to the nitty-of-. 

0:49:11 - Laura
Wait, have you seen my list of words? I'm not, but you're listening to a lot of the papers so you can hear how many pages there actually are. 

0:49:22 - Will
So are you going to put those words somewhere so people can actually access them? 

0:49:27 - Laura
Yes, so I am writing a book. My next book is called I Saw the Signs and you Can Too the Infinite Power Explained, and I will put this. So this is called a source dictionary and I've been adding words here and there as I write the book. And so when that book eventually comes out next year so this old you know, whenever this air so 2024, that book will come out and then you'll have that source dictionary. But if you follow me on social media, I do a lot of videos with these words where I break them down. I'm thinking of doing like a Mr Rogers style where I'm like hello, boys and girls. The biggest word of the day is play Prioritizing. Love always yields. So I mean, what do you mean in like, and just explaining what every single word means. So you might see some of that on my social media coming soon too. 

0:50:13 - Will
Cool. Today's show is brought to you by the letter Y. 

0:50:18 - Karen
But not the question. We'll separate you yes. 

0:50:24 - Will
Awesome. And then, on top of everything, all your books you've written, you are still actually. You're a psychic, you're a medium, you help people, you do readings for people, things like that. If someone wanted to reach out to you and get some of these services that you provide, what's the best way for someone to do that? 

0:50:37 - Laura
Yes, so I do that. I still do one-on-one coaching. I work as a medium. I do Reiki. I'm a Reiki master. I do what people call past lives. I try to talk. I try to use the word pre-conscious, going into your pre-conscious life, not your past life, because I try to move people out of the language that people sometimes consider a woo-woo, so I help people understand their pre-conscious contracts and some of the things that they're here to learn. So that's all on my website, laurasaltmancom. 

0:51:04 - Will
All right. Well, we're going to add that link directly to our show notes. All you need to do is go to skepticmanavisitioncom, go to our episode page and you'll see the links laid in there. Super easy to connect with Laura. One stop shop. Oh my gosh, it is so nice to see you again. It was so nice to talk to you. I hope that it won't be this long till we have you back on the show again, because it's been a way too long. 

0:51:25 - Laura
Well, thank you guys, and I'm really I just want to say I'm so proud I guess is the word that I'll use for that of what you guys have done here and created your own community, and I think it's so necessary for people who do find spirituality, because over the years you're going to find more and more people will find it, and these podcasts will stand for those people who do come to it and are looking for answers and discovering it through your. You know you have so many teachers and healers who come on and have all sorts of different modalities. Like you know, we all kind of have our one thing that speaks to us and calls to us, so it's really beautiful what you guys have done here. 

0:52:04 - Will
It's just in the interest of us getting better. It's a very selfish act, actually, but as we learn, everyone who listens in learns as well, and that's the most rewarding thing of it all is that we are learning along with everybody else, and we're hearing that from other people. So we very much appreciate you saying that, because we're very proud of it as well. Thank you, and a huge thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options out there, and having you decide to come along on our journey of discovery with us is an absolute honor for us. We hope you've enjoyed this conversation as much as we have. It's all for now. We will see you on the next episode of the Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then, take care.