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Karen? Yes. Have you ever heard your body speak to you? I've heard your body speak to me.
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That was private information. Wow, that's a loaded question. Well, I guess they will come
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as a surprise to you then to know that our bodies talk to us all the time and not in the
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way that you're talking about. Talk about hunger, stomach growling, or something like that.
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Absolutely not. No. In fact, our bodies are talking to us all the time, but we're just not
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really good at listening. Okay. Now, what have I told you that your body has the ability
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to tell you exactly what you need and when it all times? Well, I wish you would tell me more
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clearly. And what if just by listening to your body, you could remove obstacles and even
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heal yourself of some of the most nefarious diseases out there? That would be incredible.
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Well, you're in luck as today, we're speaking with someone that's here to show us just
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how to do that. If you've tried everything else and you're ready to be the creative director
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of your own life, you're in the right place. Welcome to the skeptic, many physicians.
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My name is Will. And I'm Karen. And unlike Molder and Scully. Both, one of the least. So,
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we've embarked on a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the
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spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.
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I even joined a covenant of witches. And wait, you joined a covenant? Yep. All in the interest
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of finding something. Anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical
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three-dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysics.
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Karen, you remember a very good friend of the shows, The Oralion. Of course.
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I had to share this because she sent me an email just yesterday that really moved me. And she didn't
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have to do this. But she took the time to send us an email. This shows you the kind of person that
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Lyra is. She took the time to do this. Well, well back, as some listeners will remember,
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I released a past life regression after a lot of thought and consideration. I wasn't sure I was
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going to release it. But I did Lyra actually gave me a past life regression. It was very successful.
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I visited it three or four different life. And there were some personal stuff in there. I released it
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as is when I finally did. But for some reason, I don't remember not letting Lyra know. But apparently
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I didn't that I released it. So it just so happens to be coming through some videos to put together
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some highlights and things like that. And came across the regression. And she got a message from
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her spirit guides. And she felt the need to tell me what this was. And I'm going to share that with you today.
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She says, Hey, Will, in parentheses and Karen says, I hope you are all well. I was putting together
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some of my interviews for highlight reels for Instagram. And I came across your past life regression.
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I didn't know you posted it. Sorry Lyra. Anyway, while I was listening, my guides came in with a message
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for you. And I'm very touched that they would actually take the time to send her message for me.
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Well, it's about you being highly evolved or elevated for our discussion that quote unquote,
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"cool spiritual things don't happen to you." But I say all the time, right? Well, she says,
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they told me to tell you that you are highly evolved. The reason being you were readily able to go into
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past lives and did it well when a lot of people have difficulties regressing. And they want you to know,
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"Don't know." They want you to quit trying quote unquote and allow things to happen. You are already there.
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I know, I know, I know, I've heard it so many times Lyra, thank you and thank your guides for sending
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me this message. It's like the universe hitting me over the head with a message over and over again
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until finally. At some point, I will listen and I will learn. But I, it's just so hard for me to just
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let go and let things happen. What are you letting go of? The expectation. I mean, I wanted, I wanted
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like kind of thing. Well, you know, it's kind of like, you see something and that's not good enough. Then
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you want more. And then you want more. I know. Are we talking about my spiritual awakening or ice cream?
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All of it. Maybe both. Yes. Well, yes, I am trying. So Lyra, thank you and your guides so much
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for sending this message along. I am going to try to stop trying and allow things to happen. And if you
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are out there like me, you are constantly trying. You were so, want it so badly that you keep trying
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and things aren't happening. Maybe this message was meant for you as well. Maybe it's time for you
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to let go. Stop trying and just let things happen. Today's special guess has over 30 years working
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as a healer and almost 20 years of teaching experience. So you know, that's a great combination.
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That she's combined several different healing modalities to help spiritual people identify and remove
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blocks that are holding them back from creating their healthiest, most successful cells. And it all starts
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with listening to the clues that our bodies are giving to us. Now, there's no way to really succinctly
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explain what she does and how it helps people. So I'm just going to let our guests explain to herself.
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Welcome to the show, Jillian Slayer. Hello. Thanks for having me. No, we are excited to have you.
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We should set the table really quickly. Let everybody know you actually graciously
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gifted each of us a session of your healing technique. And we're going to talk about that a little bit
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later. But first and foremost, let's us understand what exactly did I talk about when I said
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that our bodies speak to us. You were talking about flight cany theology or muscle testing.
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And what are the... Hey, Jeff. Yeah, can you go into a little bit more detail? So flight case
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theology was actually developed by a chiropractor in the 1960s. He noticed that when he was talking to
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his clients and talking with something positive or true, their muscles were strong. And when he was talking
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with something that was not true or they were fibbing about something, the answer was no to a question.
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Their muscles went weak. And this is across the board. So our bodies will say, yes, to us all the time,
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or no to us all the time. And we just, there is a way to listen and that way is muscle testing.
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Okay. So it's not like your body, little voice nearby saying, or it's actually, you have to
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do something, yet to test your body by doing something that allows your body to speak to you through
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the language of the body, which is physicality. And you're also, you're not talking about
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getting butterflies in your stomach or something like that or are you as well. That can be, I think butterflies
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in the stomach for us could actually be a no-orias. Hey, what? A no-orias? Oh, a no-orias?
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Yes, I thought you said a no-orias. I was like, oh, that's a new term. I have your heart a bit
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before. Okay. So then you, you physically have to ask your body, does this taste like chocolate?
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And I'll tell you, no, if it's you, you even know it. But you're not talking such a
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minute things you're talking about like, is this good for me or not? That kind of thing, right?
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Right. Yes. We want to be the conscious creator of our lives. And so doing, we want to be
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able to know which path is the best one to go down to get us to our destination in mind. So how
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is it that your body knows these things? Like if you're thinking about it logically, you know,
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but your body is telling you no, and you're thinking yes, like how does your body know better than
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what your brain is? Excellent question, care. Really good question. Our brain is usually
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aligned and agreeing with stories, facts, and quotasia marks from other people. So we think that
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we should grow up and be a police officer like our mom or dad or join be a doctor. But really
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our soul's mission is to be a chiropractor or a librarian or something different. And so then like
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your body, it's like your physical body is its own kind of consciousness that sometimes
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it can communicate with your brain consciousness. Yeah, our brain is like a computer and what Dr. Joe
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dispenses says all the time is our body is our subconscious mind. Okay, I get that that makes sense.
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But sometimes it's just so hard to trust your subconscious mind or your body. Now, like if you're not
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doing like the muscle testing that you're talking about, how would you know, I guess you wouldn't
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know, I guess that's why we're all screwed up. I mean, that's why we're here. I talked about that
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because people are you can't always can't always trust your intuition because your brain speaking
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into ego is your it's your mask that you're wearing your body, however, there's more than just
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your subconscious. Your body is your physical reality. So when people say trust your gut,
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yeah, and really trust your body, you're right, makes sense. And getting back to the butterflies,
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if we're trusting our gut, oftentimes, if you were on stage or you're about to go on stage to
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get a speech or to, you know, do a podcast or do something where you're maybe a little nervous,
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and you get those butterflies in your stomach, and somebody says to you, you know, don't be afraid.
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They're assuming that those that physiological reaction is fear, but maybe it's excitement.
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How do you tell? By muscle testing. You can tell by muscle testing. Yeah. So how does the
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muscle testing process work? You met with Will first and you kind of went through a session with him.
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His experience was a little different than mine. So let's talk about his first. How did that?
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Like that. That's what's beautiful about this because it's different with everybody. And we
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had a conversation before hitting our chord and you said, how much can we share? And I want to share
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everything about as much as you guys want to share. I don't know. Everything is a little much.
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Wait a minute. Let's talk about it. What no, it's just a flat out like, you know, I want to share
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everything. Well, let's do something. Let's keep something to play with because now with your session,
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now session, everything that we talked about is perfectly fine. In fact, by the time people listen to this,
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if you haven't listened to a few episodes and talked about the cancer that was fighting,
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this might be the time that you find out. In fact, in order to touch on that, we should mention the fact
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that you are a cancer survivor as well. And through a course of several different things that happened,
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it brought you to learning this modality. Yes, absolutely. So then when you nice spoke about
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my immediate problem, which was prostate cancer, one of the things that really stood out to me was the fact
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that you said, when you remove the energy from something, it can't survive. So essentially what we did was
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we removed the energies around that thought process. And therefore that wasn't able to exist.
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Now spoiler alert, my lives by obviously showed all benign. You couldn't see anything. I'm not necessarily
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saying that this is the reason, but my question to you because we didn't not very long ago,
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could it have worked that quickly? Or is this something that probably people have to wait
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months and years of applying this technique before something as severe as cancer would go away?
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I think it depends on the person and your belief and your ability to be open to change.
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I've had cancer in the past. I also had something called hydrarnitis, which is cancer's nasty,
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but this is nasty on a totally different level. It's where the tissue of the skin or tissue underneath
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the skin starts to eat itself. It's almost a flesh-eating disease. And no one really knows
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what it is or why it occurs. And I had it for on and off for years. And I finally just
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can't really sick of no answers. So I just tried to pull the energy out of it and within a very
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short amount of time, it went away. It dissolved and it did not come back. And this is something
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you had for years. Yes. Yeah. And that's one of the interesting things I found about your modality
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is that it's really about visualizing, but with an emotional connection to it. You've
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looked at something that you're emotionally connected. There's an energy behind it. And then you physically
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through visualization physically kind of bring it down to, I mean, the way we talked about it was
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like a dial, like from one to ten and you just take the dial if you're feeling a tang,
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just drag it down to a one. And then you see, is it still there? Is it gone? How do you feel? Is
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it, is it? Is it anxiety still there? What numbers of that? And it's really you learn to
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intuitively listen to your body without having to actually do the muscle tests. And we'll go
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over the little trick that you gave us to do the muscle tests in a minute. But what I can tell you
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is that there was a situation that the energy behind what happened at three years ago, whatever
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when I was diagnosed that that was high energy, high anxiety. And by when I physically used that
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dial to bring it down, it was a little stubborn and came back to probably like a eight or nine,
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like hop back up to a five, forced it back down to a zero and eventually it seemed like it was
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right around there, like one to three area, which was which was great. But then the added benefit,
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if nothing else is that suddenly that that anxiety that that emotional emotions I had in me were
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a lot less than it was when we first started. So this thing is really good for lots of different things,
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right? It's it's not just, let's put into disclaimer, this does not substitute you talking to your
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medical doctor and a whole deal. But this could potentially help you to heal some stuff, but also it can
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help with subconscious blockages that you have as well. Yeah, that's the most fun. I think with creating
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our own reality, we get this tool. And there's a lot of modalities that talk about the seed of the mind
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or using something in front of you that you're looking at, like a frame in the silver method,
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by using the connective nation tools, we're showing our body or mind or subconscious. This is what's
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in my life, but I would like this instead. So with the body as a subconscious mind, we're actually
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showing the subconscious, I want this, but I want that. God, you say that I love that term,
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kinetic divination. Think I mentioned to you during our session, it's a very cool term. I had
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a lot of struck with that name. That is struggle. Yeah, why is that? Because I wanted to be open for
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everyone to be comfortable to use these tools. And I think there may be some people who go
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to a nation actually story. I moved to Nova Scotia from Ontario and a family member said,
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"Well, there's a health and wellness expo. Why don't you fall in the men's see if you can get a table?"
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So I did. And they said, "Well, we'll check you out." That's fine. So I gave them my website. And they
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went to it and they said, "Oh, yeah, you're not a good match. They didn't let me in because of the word
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divination." Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. I love the name too. Some glad to hear that you like it as
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well, but I did struggle with keeping that name. Yeah, I guess for those that aren't in this space
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that we're in right now, the term divination does have a carnival type of imagery behind it, right?
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The gypsy on the with the crystal ball for telling your future. And unfortunately there's a lot
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of charl探ains out there that practice this kind of term around. But I guess that's a challenge.
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The we are talking about this from a metaphysical spiritual point of view and it does help tremendously
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in that sense when you take out all the woo. At the end of the day, this is really a great psychological
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tool to help you to remove blocks and able to let's back to the metaphysical manifest your own reality
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in the way that you wanted to. Well, I think one of the greatest things about it is that it's hands on.
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It feels like you are back in the driver seat with your body, with your subconscious, with your choices.
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It gives you a tool that you can actually physically interact with. And I like there are a few
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different tools that you have because my decision was a little bit different than wills. I think
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well, it's about being receptive. I think I just have a stubborn ass subconscious.
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And then you come for it. Something, yeah, but it's like so many of the questions you was asking me,
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is your subconscious willing to do is like, no, like really? I said that. Yeah, I could see that.
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It's kind of bitchy. This is good for you. Shut up, say yes.
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So I guess we probably have to touch on your session then, Karen, because
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let's start with yours. Well, because we can get the contrast. Have we not been speaking about
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my knowledge time? Well, really. I mean, no. Okay. So the way that it worked for us is we had a
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conversation ahead of time. We talked about different challenges. And she has this really cool canvas
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that she would put down keywords and it helped us to understand what it is that we're battling
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truly at the heart of it. Not well, you know, I can't sleep well night. Right. So what's what's
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hidden behind it? And we dove deeper into each one of those things until we found what we felt was the
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crux of situation. And then we used a meditation or a brief meditation. We used a silver method.
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And for those of you who are not familiar with the silver method, it is a really old, my parent
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for doing it when I was six, five, six, seven years old. And they taught me some of the tenants from it.
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So it was kind of an old friend to go back to something I haven't thought about in a long time.
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But use a silver method, which is a account from three down to one and it gets you into the
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alpha state. And there that way it kind of removes any kind of blocks that you might have between you and your body.
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So you can communicate freely. And then after I was in that ready state, which I should mention one of
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the things that you mentioned, Gillian, is that you were never able to muscle test appropriately or
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correctly until you started doing a meditation. If you were to close to it, it wouldn't work for you.
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Yeah. Well, we were talking about the map of consciousness. And I was in a resonance of shame,
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which is the lowest point of the map of consciousness. It's at 20 megahertz. So to accurately,
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like Dr. David Hawkins says, to accurately muscle testing, receive answers from our body,
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we need to be at the energetic resonance of 200 or courage or above. So doing the silver method
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is one way where we can unhook from the high functioning beta brain, where we're trying to analyze,
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I'm totally analytical, I analyze everything. So the silver method allows us to get into the
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alpha state and that detaches from the beta and then we can allow ourselves to kind of raise our consciousness.
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And the next step that you may be talking about next is after the alpha breath we talk about and
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sink and feel into the gratitude of something, some place some one that really jacks up the resonance of
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our body and our mind. Right. And that's what you were saying. The muscle testing never worked for you
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unless you were in a state of gratitude. And that makes a lot of sense because you are raising your
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vibrations. You're vibrating a certain hertrate that aligns you with the language of your body.
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Yeah, I'd muscle test. I'd be dating a dude. And I'd be like, oh, this is the one. This is the guy.
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I can just feel it. And I'd muscle test. Is this the guy? And I'd get a yes. And then we'd break
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up a week later. But my body said he was the guy. Yeah, my body like I'm very much.
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This is a family show, Jolly. It's the best. Right now.
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We can actually use that. I work with my clients sometimes to see where muscle test the body,
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to see where you're actually attracting love for relationships or friendships or that job with that
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client or that money into your life. And we should really be attracting from our hearts and oftentimes
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where you're not. We're attracting people from different areas for different reasons. Which point then
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she had me and I don't want to give it away just yet. But she had me do the test and I could
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ascertain a yes from my body from a no and based on that we narrowed it down even further. Now,
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we need to take a break. So when we come back, we're going to talk about exactly how you do muscle
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testing so that anyone listening to this right now could do it immediately with positive results.
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We're back on this skeptic. In a position today, we're talking to Jolly and Schlager who is an expert
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kinetic divinator. How did you like how I twisted that around a little bit?
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Like that. Is it divinator? Yeah. Divinator diviner diviner diviner. I know it's just reminds me of
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never. We're talking about muscle testing and how our bodies speaks to us by speaking and being
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contact or in tune with our bodies, we can actually help remove a lot of blockages that are keeping us
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back not just physically but mentally and psychologically as well. And right before we went to the
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break, we teased that we were going to teach people how to muscle tests. So before we go into care and
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session, let's go ahead and put it out in the open. How does someone go about testing themselves right at home
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right now? Yeah. So right now, and you guys can pause this take a minute and do some deep breathing
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to connect with your body. Deep breath in, relaxing, exhaling and visualizing and repeating
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two three times. Taking another deep breath in, and exhaling, visualizing and repeating two three times.
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Another deep breath in, and as you exhale, visualize and repeat one three times.
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And breathing normally, imagine someone someplace, sometimes something, a pet that you love
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unconditionally. Someone's something that you're grateful for.
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And imagine that gratitude, and ask that gratitude to give you an image that is clear in your
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mind of why you're grateful for that person-place or thing. And ask your brain to turn it up,
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turn up the gratitude, turn up the happiness, turn up the intensity of that gratitude.
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And that this space of gratitude is when you can tune in and muscle test your body. You can
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ask your body for a yes or no answer, but first we're going to do a baseline. And you can do different
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baselines with muscle testing. One of the easiest one is pinch your finger, middle finger, and thumb
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together, and then loop them together. So you're making a chain and pinch really hard and then pull
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against each other just to test, have a baseline test. And then you ask your body, what does yes?
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What does yes feel it? So you're going to say yes, yes, yes, yes, and pull against,
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and it should stay strong. And then ask your body, what does no feel like, pinch, and pull,
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yeah, and your finger has to make. Right there. And you have to be in a state of gratitude
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to be thankful when you're asking the question. The other thing is, and I think a lot of,
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so men and a lot of women, want to feel and be strong and independent. And then control.
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And in that space, we're not allowing our body to feel that just a little bit of a difference between
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yes and no. But the next one that I really love is just putting your dominant hand. So if you're
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right with your right hand, put your right hand on your clavicle, your collarbone, put your hand
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flat, your thumb, your fingers flat, but raise your index finger with your other hand with your
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just testing the baseline, pushing down. And that finger is going to resist being pushed.
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And then ask again, what does the S feel like? And what's no feeling. You just want to,
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sometimes it's that little subtle difference between the S and no. And you connecting with your body,
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you're allowing your body to shiggle you what yes feels like and what no feels like.
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Karen, did that one work for you? So this is the issue that we had during my session.
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And I don't know if it's something about my subconscious wanting to stay in control. But the thing that
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I loved so much about Jillian was that she did not give up on me. And we went through a few different tests.
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And somehow she got this information out of me that was nothing like what I thought we were originally
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going to talk about. Because we're kind of talked about just need to feel like I can do things again.
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And I've become invisible. And I want to be this person that I used to be. And then now I'm just,
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it's all about me. Well, sorry. You opened the camera. So no, I wanted to be about you.
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So by the end of the session, we realized that with my, my, yes, Gidja, whatever is this really
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incredibly strong sense of emotional responsibility, I have about my family. Like I feel like I
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hold all of their emotions because of me they're holding it together. Which obviously cannot be the case.
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But when she was asking, you know, like subconscious in my higher self, I were willing to like go
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of that it was like, no, because I feel like if I let go, it's going to be bad for them. And I can't
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let that. Also part of your acting. And it's become such a part of me. Well, I was
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not crying all the time. But at this time, it was like, it was really, it was incredible. And then
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she, you know, we talked about the intentions and that's something I'm still doing all the time.
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And thank you so much for that tool. I love that. But it was really, it was just really
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it was a great session. I mean, like I said that I was like, this isn't going to work. And then I felt bad
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because the stuff what working for me, but she never, never, maybe she made me feel comfortable to say,
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yeah, it's not working instead of a feel bad. And then to keep pushing through and figuring out a way
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to really discover what was going on and to help me with that. It's all feedback. And I suppose that
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if you were to do this in person with a canocetologist, you put your arm out and they would push it down
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or not. And then really, it's not up to you. It's your body either allowing it or doesn't. So this is
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it's almost like a psychological mind trick that you're playing on yourself that you're not allowing
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yourself to really feel the difference because it's you yourself. I understand. Yeah, I have a really
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fun story. I'm writing a book for a house. It's called Dancing with Shadows. Congratulations,
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that's awesome. Thank you. So kind of a pre-emptive. I went into school. So talk to the kids about
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bullying and what it does to your body. And I had a classroom for the kids. I brought one kid up
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to the front of the class with me. And I had cards with positive and negative words on them.
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So the one kid faced away from the class and I showed this card to the class of the other kids
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to be read the word. They did not say it. If the word was positive and they all the class was thinking
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the positive word and projecting it, thinking written on the kids back. If it was positive,
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the kid tested strong. If the word was negative, the kid tested weak. And the kid never saw the word
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"wow." Interesting. That's incredible. Yeah, just because I showed you that there's a physical
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response that you don't have to have belief. It's there or it's not. I think when your brain comes into it,
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that's when things become a little bit more challenging for you. Yeah, we have all these stories of what
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we should do or be or can do or be. That gets in the way of us creating the knife-leave desire.
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And I think for me part of it was also my parent split up when I was really young. And my mother
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her thing was you have to go to school. You have to be independent. You have to, you know, get your
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career. You don't need anybody. You have to be strong, strong, strong, strong, strong. So maybe saying yes to
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everything to me was more of a weakness than a strength. And like you have to say no, and this doesn't work.
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I don't know. I think maybe somehow my body might be a little bit muddled on what's really being strong
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means, you know, an independent. So that might be part of it too. It's kind of been in
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grains since I was seven or eight years old. Sounds like you're going to have to talk to Julian A lot
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coming up here. Well, and there is quantum entanglement. We become entangled with other people's
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perceptions and your cheese thoughts beliefs. That's true. Now you're opening up whole other
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can and worms. You know, how do you disentangle yourself at the quantum level? I think you're reading
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your Facebook posts and I love them. Oh, look at this. All around Facebook. She posts great stuff
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entangling. Oh, I'll pick you disentangling is just I eject this for my body. Yeah. And you bring up
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that term. I wouldn't bring up because it was so cool. We both agreed that when we when you use it
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with us, we both just lit up right when we had one of the things we talked about is empathy and taking
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other people's energies or other things energies into us that doesn't really belong there. And you said
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very simply just when you're doing these these types of exercises, it's a very simple phrase to tell
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yourself. And that is, I eject all outside energy. And I'll tell you what, when both we both have the same
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response, that is such a powerful phrase that when we say to ourselves, it gives us a sense of peace
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and reduces that energy so much that it's become our mantra now and every day mantra. And then
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add to that what you told me, I claim my body. Yes, that to me. So first I'd be ejected and then I claim.
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That's my, she didn't tell me to claim. So maybe she didn't want me to claim my own body. She
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wanted me to. I just had more issues. But I think men are raised to own their own bodies.
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I think women, and I think in the old and age, when we had the coming up party,
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we were actually claiming, hey, we're an adult now. We don't have that anymore. Yeah. That's true.
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That's very true. Yeah. So then after we tested, we did the muscle testing and we had got a
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baseline as to what was yes or no. Then was the fun part. Then we started asking questions about
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that particular topic that we had narrowed it down to and saying, is this mine? Is this not?
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Is this is that whatever. And then depending on the answers, we then took it a step further.
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And that was the visualization process. And I loved your image of the big white board.
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The number with the number to line on it. Yeah. And that's what I was talking about earlier, because
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my particular challenge was a heavy duty number like 910. The energy, they was charged with such
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negative energies that through with your help. I actually asked me to grab that energy in the
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timeline that was 910 and physically drag it down to a one. And then you had different versions,
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one was the timeline that was straight across the white board. The other one was like a like a pendulum chart.
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Thank you pendulum chart and you, you know, and that's the one that helps me. That's what I use as the
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pendulum chart. So I'm able to bring it and dial it down. And I guess maybe the act of dialing it down
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also psychologically helps me to really own it in that sense. Care did you use the same?
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I feel the number of line worked better from you. But this is another thing. It was like,
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you know, are you willing to give some, you know, let go some of this note. That was a responsibility.
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It did change. It did get better. I think my results might not have been as good as yours,
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because my subcut much more stubborn. Yeah. But it definitely did make a significant difference
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from you. In full disclosure, I was dealing with cancer. Right. So I was very motivated to make
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this thing work. So because that motivation, whatever, whatever it took, I was doing, I threw myself
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with a band and into this thing. And when the desire is there, I used that to quit smoking.
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Wow. To quit smoking. Yeah. And I did it one time and it worked. But my desire to quit smoking was
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at just the highest point. Plus what I did in somebody, anybody can use this when you're listening.
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If you're listening right now, pause it and think of a whiteboard in front of you. And just like we
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use the muscle testing with the finger or you can use the arm from muscle testing. The whiteboard
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is muscle testing as well. But on a quantum level, right? Because it's not, you're physically,
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you're not doing anything. It's all in your mind. Yes. It is your mind. But it is your mind relaying.
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Yes or no response to your body in all the muscle testing. So even with a pendulum, a pendulum,
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an any designing tool is muscle testing. Right. You actually mentioned that I forgot. You had mentioned
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that some people get to the point where they don't actually have to do muscle testing. Right. You can
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actually define it. You intuitively know what the answer is. As you started asking questions, is your energy
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here? Is there? I kept asking. But after a while, it would instantly, I would instantly know. And
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you also did a yes or no. So which one was lit up for me? When you ask a question. And it's one of
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things that it is. It's so subtle and so fast that if you think about it, you're going to get the wrong answer.
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Right. It's got to be something that is just in an immediate answer. What is the first
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answer that comes to mind? And I was able to jump into it. Now people say I'm clear cognizant. That
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might be something that helped. But I suddenly started being able to intuit the answer and it seemed to
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work well for me. Yeah. I think using these tools again and again, we'll strengthen that. Well,
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I've been using it almost daily since then. So thank you. Yeah. But they're just they're easy to use.
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I like that. It's not like how I got to do this. You know, it's like this mantra or this
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visualization. And it helps. Yeah. So sure it does. Now what kind of things can you use this for? Is
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anything that you can't use it for? I think the stumbling block is when we are a per emotional
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about something. That's when it kind of gets muddled. Yeah. I mean, I'm really like you to help.
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Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of empaths. And this is why I'm very empathic. And I was told so many times
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growing up, stopping still emotion. And I thought when I was older, there has to be a reason.
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Our bodies are so smart. So there needs to be. There has to be a reason for these emotions.
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This is a way that we can use our emotions as feedback. But if we're highly emotional about something.
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So yesterday, I couldn't find my cat. And I had seen a car outside my neighbors house
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yesterday afternoon. And I thought I heard them say, "Oh, we'll just take him. We'll put him in the
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car and we'll take him." And then, a few hours later, I couldn't find my cat. So my brain went to
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home and I was so highly emotional. There was no way I could be a good person. So I just waited,
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calm down, intended for the best possible words. I would come and then hit him and a few hours
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later. Oh, I was just saying, "Quaring minds, you need to know where is the cat."
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And it's hard. I think that was the issue that I had. I was so emotional at everything.
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And it's like, "Will you focus on getting rid of the cancer?" And that's something that you
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desperately want. And it's only a good outcome. But my mindset was, "Yes, I will feel better if I
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don't bear the responsibility of all these people's emotions." Good for me, but bad for them,
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because they're going to be flailing. I mean, so there was also in my mind a negative outcome as well.
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So that's where my struggle is. And I think I need to define it a little bit clearer.
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Yes, my motivation was to get rid of the cancer, but talking with Jillian,
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and working with her helped me to understand that there's an energy behind that that could have
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contributed to my getting it. And that is the energy that we were trying to completely
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deflate. So that's what I was thinking about when I was doing that timeline. And put them it,
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I'm going to say it worked. So because then that that emotion that I was carrying around with me
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is decreased tremendously. I'm hoping it stays that way. But if it doesn't, no, no, how to
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bring it back down. Well, coming back to, thank you for that. And I'm so glad. So grateful
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to hear that you think that this could have had an impact. But it really, I believe,
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it does when we take control of our body, our mind, in our emotions. And like I said before, I was
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adding an energetic resonance of 20 megahertz, which was shame. They've actually done testing and
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found that cancer grows at 42 megahertz and below. So I know that I was living in shame for decades.
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And that's such a motivating factor for me to come online bringing these tools to people.
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I'm so passionate about not keeping anything hidden. I want people to know these tools.
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Because they're so simple and easy. But it's not something that's intuitive. God forbid someone
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in the West actually says, "Oh, just think your cancer away." Now, everyone who's in this space
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who knows anything about metaphysics knows that it is 100% possible to heal yourself. There are
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full-on documentaries about healing yourself. Dr. Joe Despensa himself healed himself in with his mind
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from a terrible accident that he's had and he talks about it all the time. So it is possible.
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But you have to be in the right mindset. You have to have the right tools to do it. You can't just
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wish it away. There's some work you have to do. And so far, we've done caring a lot of different
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healing modalities a lot. And who knows which one of them, maybe combination of them all is what helped
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get get rid of it. But these tools, Jillian, that you shared with us, are so simple. And yet,
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seemingly so powerful because the minute I walked out of this room after our session, I felt lighter than
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when I had walked into it. So whether it is a placebo factor, not, I loved it. And I can't advocate
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enough for people to reach out to you to do this for themselves. Because it's nice to hear about it
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on the show and show you can practice it yourself while you're listening to this or watching this. But please
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don't do it while you're driving a car. But there's no substitute to actually being in contact with
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Jillian and having her walk you through it. She's infinitely patient. And the way that she's able to
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find her way to the root of the issue is nothing short of miraculous. I mean, I had no idea. I was
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going to completely different. Completely different. Yeah. Well, we, a lot of the times that our
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worst problems are so hidden from us because we're too close to it. So this really helped to reveal a lot
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of things that I didn't realize that I was still carrying around with me. Yeah, absolutely. And then
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another thing I liked about the session was she was telling me to take your life and put it into segments.
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And just, you know, if you're going to the mall, make that be a segment and then have an intention
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for that segment. So I tried it. And I'm running like to pick up a scene of from school. Like,
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hey, this is the segment, the drive to school. And it's normally a seven-minute drive and I had six
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minutes to get there. I'm like, not going to get any midlights. It's going to be a great drive. I'm going to get
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there on time. And just as hitting the last light, because I'll have some more green, it turned red,
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but it just turned green. And I did not have to stop. I'm not saying you can do this for everything.
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And you don't want to abuse it. That's the thing. I'm like, oh, I can't do this every time.
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But yeah, I don't know. I'm in there in six minutes instead of seven. Yeah, segmented.
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And the thing is something that Abraham talks a lot. And when you are segmenting, look at what you
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want to create, intend for, and have that intention. So next time, and look for this in
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that area that you're using segmented or creation in general, look for the positives. So you don't want
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to find attracting a partner, a friend, someone to date. I don't want to say, I don't want to say, I don't want
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to see a look or I say, I want someone who is conscious. So I don't want red lights and use instead,
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I want all green lights. I just was like, I'm going to get there on time. Yeah, I was going to
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had one that less than normal, but I was going to get, and I did. Yeah, that's a great, great point
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that we didn't talk about. You were very much about keeping it on the positive side of things.
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Because everyone knows manifesting, you're telling the universe what you want, not what you don't
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want. And when we're negative, we're showing the universe what we don't want. I don't want red lights.
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Oh, well. Yeah, the universe only ever says yes to you. Right. So then you say,
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I always get red lights. The universe goes, yes, you're always. Yeah. And if you say, I don't want
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red lights and you're saying, okay, let's keep them not wanting red lights because you keep getting red lights.
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You know, the actor does think about the act of component of each sentence we say. So the act of component
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is red light. So then what you're saying is, I'm going to have all green lights and spin it in a positive.
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And that really helps. Yeah. Same like, if you said, don't think of a pink elephant.
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I'm not, I'm not, I'm no refuse. Okay. And I love that term segment tending segment intending.
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Oh, well, I put it all together as one and call it segment tending. He words up as you go along.
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You're just great. Yeah. It's the language of will. I'm still trying to figure that out.
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Yeah. It takes a lifetime. All right. Well, is there anything that we haven't talked about
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jelly? Anyone make sure that we touch on it before we say goodbye? I think this is a good place to just close
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out asking people to really focus on the positive and please ask your body. Please use your body and your
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emotions as feedback. See the life that you see in front of you as feedback not the end result
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and be brave to choose what you actually desire. That's great. That's great. And if you are not
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understanding your body language contact William, she can translate. She's the body whisperer. Yes.
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But the muscle I guess muscle whisper is probably a better budget term. Well, Jillian, I can't
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thank you enough not only for coming on the show today and sharing of your wisdom but also for
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sitting with us individually and helping us to go through these things and maybe helping me to get rid of my
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cancer. So let's keep that positive. Thank you so much. And if someone wanted to reach out to you
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to connect what's the very best way for them to do that? In the best way, I'm always on Facebook.
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So you can come reach out on my mean Facebook page or I have a website that's chelangelikeor.com.
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Easy, P.D. We're going to add direct links to Jillian's website and social media on our show notes
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so you can just go to skepticmanivision.com find her episode right there in her episode show notes.
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You'll see the links directly there. It's just a click away. Come once again, Jillian. Thank you
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so much thrilled to have you on the show and I'm sure we'll we're going to stay in touch for sure.
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And we're excited to see that book when it's done. Yes, and when you have the book, let us know
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so we can put it on our on our show notes as well. We'll add a link to it. I will thank you so much.
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It's been great, guys.
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Hi, my name is Bob and I am getting in touch. You guys about the Judah collective podcast.
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I just listened to today. There is a study that was done by the Monroe Institute and it was
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called the Explorer Files. It was from 1974 to 1990. I think it's a collective of about 30.
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Different tests over these years. And when the Judah collective, when the lady went into the spiritual world,
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the way that she spoke, it almost gives me chills. The extreme resemblance, how they speak
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from how she does versus this study in the Explorer Files. I would greatly, greatly,
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I'd recommend listening to that and I'll try to send you a link.
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You just heard a voice mail message from Robert Trago. He used the handy little voice mail
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We got it and we can't wait to check it out. Thanks again.
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