Will: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes. What if I told you that there was a bubble around our house that lifted the level of consciousness for everyone that walked into it? That sounds wonderful. Doesn't it? Now what if I told you that this same bubble helped eliminate harmful EMF frequencies in the environment while inside our house?

Well that sounds fantastic. Okay, well then let's take it a step further. What if that same bubble could be placed around someone's mobile phone allowing them to carry this wonderful bubble of enhanced consciousness with them? Anywhere they went and protect them from the EMTs and protect them from

Karen: the EMF EMF.

I don't know where T came from,

Jeffrey: Silence.

Karen: but maybe them too. No, that sounds

Will: fantastic. Well, this bubble Karen, not only does it exist, but it has been around us for some time right now. But what is it exactly? How does it work? How did it get there? And what. Have we been feeling since it arrived? These are just a few of the questions we're going to answer on this episode of the skeptic metaphysicians.

So whether you're a skeptic or a seasoned metaphysician, [00:01:00] join us as we explore the fascinating world of focused life force energy with a pursuit of consciousness elevation. is at the core.

Hey there, I'm Will. And I'm Karen. And today the interview is one I have been anticipating for quite a while. We welcome skeptics and seekers of the metaphysical alike.

Today we've got two extraordinary guests on the Skeptic Metaphysicians podcast, Jeffrey Stegman and Clayton Stedman. That's going to [00:02:00] be interesting to say. The brilliant minds behind Focused Life Force Energy or FLFE. Now these pioneers have spent over a decade Delving into the realms of high consciousness fields, drawing inspiration from Dr.

David Hawkins map of consciousness. Now I know the term life force energy might raise an eyebrow or two, but bear with us because Jeff and Clayton have developed a free energy type machine, for lack of a better word, that's capable of directing this universal energy, whether you call it chi, prana, ether, or something else through quantum association for the greater good.

We are thrilled. To have Jeffrey and Clayton with us today. Gentlemen, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Jeffrey: Great to be here.

Clayten: Thank you, Will. Thank you, Karen.

Will: So obviously the elephant in the room. Uh, so you, this is so many like where do I, I am,

Karen: I don't even know where to start. Well, this is something we've never heard about before

Will: and it's incredible. It is incredible. [00:03:00] And like I mentioned, we, we, it's been around our house for a while and, and recently, uh, Took it further and into our mobile phones, and we'll talk about that in a second.

But first and foremost, can you explain for those of us listening who may not be as aware of FLFE, what exactly are we talking about here?

Jeffrey: a consciousness field. It's very similar in the way that we can do it. You know, any, any person, when they think of someone, like say you're, Grandma's sick, and you're, you're sending her prayers for health and getting better. When you, when you think of Grandma, we believe a field is activated around her, a consciousness field.

And now there's this connection between you. She may even think of you. You know, maybe you're gonna call her, and she thinks of you, and then you call. We all experience that. But that's that, that quantum association or connection that's happening between the two of you. And then you're sending her love, or sending her wishes for health.

And it's in her field and it, it helps her and there's [00:04:00] research showing that those kind of connections, um, with, you know, prayer for healing and Reiki and can have a positive effect on people. And epilepsy works in very much the same way.

Karen: it can affect them even if they don't know you're sending out this energy and love to them.

Jeffrey: Just like prayers do. Yeah.

Will: That sounds amazing, but I don't think that you and Clayton sit around all day long thinking about all the people that have subscribed to the FLFE. So how do you get, how do you get so many people to raise their consciousness?

Especially the fact that you're putting this around a certain address, that. whenever someone walks into that address, you feel this enhanced conscious, talk to us about this machine.

Clayten: Well, I'll talk to you about the evolution of the technology. I came across the technology in 2007, at least a variation of it. it's changed a lot since then, and we've added other sort of technologies to the original one. Jeff and I are kind of car guys, so if you think, imagine [00:05:00] the old Model T.

You know, and then you have a new Tesla. It's kind of like that's we took it from a Model T to a Tesla so I I came across a couple of Inventors who were working on a free energy device. They wanted to create something for humanity. That was easy to manufacture and, you know, they could get out there really, really quickly and one with one of them was a, an engineer, a tool and die maker and electrician.

He was quite a, a versatile gentleman. He was retired and he just wanted to do something for the world. And they've been working on it for seven years. By the time I met them, there was only the retired man left because everybody else was broke and they had to stop doing that and go make a living. they hadn't created a free energy device in the way that they wanted to, or that you could plug an appliance in. And they stumbled across, a way to focus life force energy, chi, prana, you know, ether, whatever you want to call it, on a small location in this piece, in this big machine. [00:06:00] And so what happened is that this gentleman would take a piece of crystal, and he would put it in that output area, if you will.

That's what he called it, the output stack. And it would charge up the crystal. It would really raise its vibration. He would put these all around the house when he walked into his house. you know, the hair on your own stand up. It just vibrated so high and, uh, you know, he would charge these up and take them to the restaurant down the street, you know, and they're like the restaurant really liked the vibe in there.

So they would, I think they had a, I think he had a french fry deal, Jeff, when you get french fries for consciousness. So.

Karen: Sounds like a good deal

Clayten: It's a good deal.

Jeffrey: Bring in the field, you get French fries.

Clayten: Bring in the field to get french fries, you know, something

Will: It's a perk. I didn't realize I don't think I got my French fries.

Jeffrey: We might want to do some trading. Yeah.

Clayten: yeah, yeah. Well, that's how it all started.

I think they were guided by the divine because their intent was so pure. And they really just wanted the help and they worked at it for a long time. And, they had a lot of technology there. This guy spent everything he [00:07:00] made on the machine, if you will. yeah, I'm grateful to this day for his loving intent and the hard work and the technical skill that he devoted to it.

Will: and you are extending that with your FLFE, efforts. And we're going to talk about that in a

Will: minute because it's, astounding, how you're contributing to the world with what you're doing. But here's where I'm having the biggest disconnect. How can, how can the machine, I mean, is it like a, I don't know, a laser, like a, like satellite that then beams at this energy onto you, onto your address or like how, I mean, now you can even carry it on your cell phone, right?

You, you put it around your cell phone, you walk around anywhere that you're, that comes in within the, I believe it's a, it's a 30 foot bubble, nine foot bubble. I know there's a big difference, but there's a different, you know.

Jeffrey: There's, there's the 300 foot bubble around the phone, but the, the nine foot radius bubble is kind of the most highest consciousness, the most, support. It might help to tell you what it was like to, to look at this system, right? This original system, which we now have distilled and simplified as much.[00:08:00]

technology has simplified. It was a Nikola Tesla type setup. There was high speed alternating current running through stacks of plates and coils and different geometries. And so this filled this house and these stacks were all input stacks. So they were bringing energy, In through the adjustment of the oscillation of the, power, you know, and the voltage.

And there was one output stack, like Clayton said. And then under that output stack was this highly concentrated Chi, Prana, life force energy at a very high consciousness level. And what we discovered is that in that field at the bottom of that output stack could create the quantum association that we talked about humans doing.

into that field goes a unique identifier. So it could be an address, coordinates. You know, to, to, for a property or a cell phone number, in a certain jurisdiction. There's only [00:09:00] one cellular device with that phone number. So that unique identifier is like thinking of grandma, you know, you're holding grandma in your mind at what she looks like, what she feels like. so that unique identifier is the core of this connection that creates this, moving, bubble around the phone and also around the property. So we're, we're putting into that field, a unique identifier for all these properties. And originally we took a piece of paper, in printed, the address and the different instructions.

So there's instructions that go into that field. and we put it into the field of service would go on. And when the customer left for some reason, then we'd have to find it and pull it out. Obviously not very scalable. But that, that might give you a sense of, you know, how this works.

There, there's a written piece of paper that has these unique identifiers in it and the instructions for the field. And the way this system was developed, it just is able to make that connection, that quantum connection like we do with grandma.

Will: Oh, no, I can't [00:10:00] stop thinking about grandma. I know. I've got

Karen: so many questions. Um, I don't know which one to ask first. Okay. So when you're talking about the device and you said that it was like at the bottom underneath it all was this concentrated chi or this energy, how, how did that, how did you get that energy there?

Like, where does that energy come from?

Will: I'm so proud of you. That's such a, we will question. That's perfect.

Clayten: I'm going to tell you what I think because I wasn't there when it was invented, but, and I could tell you an interesting story afterwards about how we discovered that, that you could do quantum association there because he didn't know that at the time, what I might have. So I'm going to say divine intervention. So when, how did things get invented? You know, you hear all these stories about inventors, you know, they have this and they have something in mind they want to create, and maybe some of them are selfish, I don't know, but these guys, this one gentleman, his intent was pure, and he was so devoted to help humanity, I think the divine helped him invent something that has never been invented before, or since that I've seen. the short [00:11:00] story. he also had a two car garage full of milling machines. he used to buy old, electronic equipment that was broken, fix it up and resell it. This guy was kind of a genius and, he had milling machines and casting machines, and he had a, he had a parts shop in his garage.

It was like Florida ceiling full of parts. So it was like a lot of work and a little bit of help from the divine. And he invented some stuff that just hasn't been invented before.

it just showed up there.

Will: yeah, I think it takes a little, a whole lot of faith, right? There's a big leap of faith that this stuff is there. So I think for me, it's, it's really hard for me to wrap my head around because I'm, I'm, I need to feel it, touch it, taste it. Right. To Karen's point in the question, it's hard to just, just.

I'm going to take that leap of faith. So we actually did your trial and we put the field around our house and we now we've got the field around our cell phone or my cell phone, for example. And I guess really someone like me who is not skeptical or pragmatic, who has a hard [00:12:00] time uh, connecting the dots, this doing this, which is a free, anyone can go and actually do a free trial.

It's 15 day trial with you all to feel the, the, the field for themselves. I mean, that's, that's really the. Proof in the pudding, right? And we'll talk about what we each felt as we move forward. But, it's fascinating because it's, the quantum field opens every possibility.

And we talked about Karen, the harmonic egg does the same thing with, with distance healing, Reiki energy, Jeffrey, you mentioned that. So it's the same principle, but it's still so darn hard to wrap your head around it when you're thinking pragmatically.

Jeffrey: Yeah.

Karen: And this to me is a little bit different than things we've talked about in the past, because I think In the past, we've discussed energy kind of attaching or working with a person, but this sounds more like it's working with a location or with an object.

So people coming into the house, feel it leaving the house. I would imagine when you move it, I guess, stays with the house and you have to redo the system at your next location, next home.

Clayten: yes.

Jeffrey: Yeah. There, there's a, uh, customer portal where you can [00:13:00] change addresses. And some people do it every day, you know, they go to work and they change the address. Um,

Will: why did I not think of that?

Jeffrey: you know,

Clayten: room.

Karen: take it with you.

Jeffrey: yeah, yeah, I mean, you could take it with you. We do it in hotel rooms, because if you think about a hotel room, there's been a lot of people there, a lot of different energies. And we believe that consciousness stays in the crystalline structure of the concrete floor and the drywall, concrete block, that there's consciousness fields everywhere.

Um, you know, we wise we walk around the world, we're walking into high ones and low ones. And you just think of a hotel room. It's like over and over and over, you know, lots just could be hundreds, even thousands of people. So activating the service there, you can help clean that up. And I find I get a much better night's sleep, um, and less negative thoughts because you can, there could be a negative field with people had a fight or, you know, something [00:14:00] bad happened.

Um, You know, those negative thoughts can be in a negative field and you can think they're your thoughts, but they're really not, they're, they're, they're in the environment. So that's why this is really an environmental, uh, support rather than an individual.

Karen: And so, Will, I know you kind of activated this without telling me, but was it still active yesterday? Like, was it,

Will: it's still, it's around my mobile phone. So

Karen: it's just around, oh,

Will: nice. Yeah, well, we did the house, we did the house first. And it was when we, when we mentioned, when I mentioned the beginning of the show, that this has been a long time coming, I activated it in, anticipation of our interview with Jeffrey and Clayton. And then we had to. Unfortunately, push it off. Oh, gotcha. Uh, so it was a 15 day, trial. I didn't want to just dive into it without talking to them first. So the next step, and I waited until we knew we were going to get Jeffrey and Clayton on the show, to activate the cell phone so that we can still feel the effects of it, walking around.

It's a 300 foot radius, so you're in it, Karen. All the time. We are together all the time. My cell phone is [00:15:00] always on me. Well, yeah, yesterday we weren't though. a fair point. Good question. How did you feel yesterday?

Karen: Well, that's what I was saying. No, yesterday I felt great. Oh boy. Yeah. I'm sorry.

But that's why I was like, Oh, maybe that's why. But anyways.

Jeffrey: We should get yours on as well.

Will: definitely going to do that.

Jeffrey: You know, Dr. Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona's. our senior researcher now. And one of the things he's taught us is in these frontier science, you know, areas like FLFE is, and he studied Reiki and he studied, um, mediums who read, you know, people as after they pass over. That The first thing you look for is, is something happening, you know, understanding quantum association.

I think anyone that says they understand it, probably mistaken. Um,

Will: Definitely mistaken.

Jeffrey: and it's just so out of our 3D reality. It's really hard to wrap, like you said, wrap our minds around. But [00:16:00] the way he goes at it and the way we've done it in our research is, is something happening. And then from there, you can start to dive into, okay, at what level is something happening and, you know, get to, get to causes.

But we have quite a few, you know, serious research projects, uh, on our website in the research tab that. You know, you might find interesting.

Will: I dove headfirst into the research and we'll talk about it a little bit. Um, but let's talk about the levels of consciousness, right? This is based on the Hawkins map of consciousness. So when you activate the FLFE in a, in an address, for example, or a mobile phone to what level of consciousness based on Hawkins maps, do you bring it to?

Clayten: Well, we, we guarantee that the environment in your home will be at the level of consciousness set on the slider because we have a consciousness slider in your control panel. You can move up and down. We guarantee that it will be at that level 98 percent of the time or more. Over a [00:17:00] 24 hour period or you get it for free. So we, when we test every day that the, that when a new, uh, service goes on. And the level that's defaulted is, is the level of unconditional love. Which is 550 on the Hawkins Map of Consciousness. And you can slide it up to 570. And if it's a little too intense, you can slide it down to as low as 400, you might even go lower than that because sometimes there's an adaptation period when people are just getting used to the, to that level of consciousness in the environment.

They might be much, much higher personally, but they might have had a geopathic stress zone or something in their home. Or in the property and then that would correct possibly the geopathic stress zone. And so they're, you know, people adapt to conditions, right? We're very adaptable humans. And so if that condition is no longer there and all of a sudden there's a lot more energy, it could be sort of unsettling for a little while.

Will: And what kind of things would you feel when you are raised up? I know that, uh, I think the level of consciousness reaching 700, 000 is [00:18:00] enlightenment, whatever that means. Right. Um, but if you raise it to like 600, you're really close. So what kind of things can someone expect to feel?

Clayten: the environment won't go any lower. And it doesn't interfere with your free will if you want to be... Disagreeable, miserable, angry, and contrary. You can still do that. You just have to work harder at it. You know, you can still do it though.

Will: No wonder, man, I've been so tired lately.

Karen: That kind of leads me to a question. Can it affect you physically? Because, and I don't know, see, Will does this stuff and he doesn't tell me, so I don't know when it was activated and when it wasn't. So I'm trying to think, did I feel different at certain times?

But there was, um, a couple weeks ago where, you know, our daughter got sick and she was sick for about 10 days and Will got sick. And I'm like, I'm not getting sick and I'm pushing through because I had to take care of everybody and I wasn't sick. I wasn't sick and wasn't sick. And then all of a sudden, like, after they were better.

I was sick. Mm-Hmm. just like all of a sudden. So I'm like wondering, did it, was it [00:19:00] on? And then it turned off. Like, can it help your energy to keep you healthy physically? Or is that just mom power

Jeffrey: Well, mom power is more powerful than anything else in the universe. So we can just straighten that out right now. in a, in a high consciousness field, there's just more. Energy for the body. So there's, there's more life force for the immune system, for the brain. So people tend to experience, more mental capacity, more, ability to just do something.

It takes a lot of concentration for a long period of time, like homework for kids. Fine. We find that kids kind of sail through their homework more easily. So there's, there's just more there in the body. If you follow Chinese medicine, or if you've ever gotten acupuncture. You know, it's freeing up the flow of chi, you know, to those parts and there's just lots more chi.

And so the body is using it. so people their immune system may be enhanced. But they could be rising in consciousness, which to us is increasing freedom. So, because we all have lots of [00:20:00] little programs going and lots of little voices at different ages, different emotional levels, you know, and it's, that can be tiring and it can pull us lots of different directions.

I say, want to go this way, but something else has pulled me that way. so as those things are in a loving. Unconditional love field, they start to rise and they start to come up, maybe to be seen. so some of that may start to rear its head, but then to be integrated, the average person goes up 30 points on the Hawkins map in 90 days. Um, and that's, that's big.

Will & Karen: Yeah. How do you measure that?

Jeffrey: has cracked Dr. Hawkins, you know, kinesiology measures and I'll let him tell you how many calibrations I, I lose track, but it's physical as well because as we change, as we upgrade and we let go of patterns and habits that we used to have, there is a, there is a physical or biochemical process.

As well, you know, neurons are reorganizing, [00:21:00] uh, we may be building our capacity to hold the energy in our, myelin sheath and, and analog nervous system. so that takes more water. So one of the things that happens is people feel a little dehydrated or they feel thirstier. So they drink more water and we encourage more hydration, especially in those beginning, few weeks.

Will: Yeah, so here comes my question, I've been holding back saying I'm glad that you brought up the water intake. Can this be the cause of migraines? Um, I ask because since I've turned on the field on my mobile phone, I have had a migraine every day except for one. The problem is I don't drink water. I am notoriously dehydrated and, and I have arthritis in the back of my neck, which then triggers migraines when I become more dehydrated.

So could that be like, is it, does it affect someone that much where it could trigger migraines based on the fact that you're not having [00:22:00] enough water?

Clayten: So, if you're dehydrated, the service starts to act like a dimmer switch, because we don't want to throw people into a Herkemisor's response or healing crisis. So some of the programs will turn down around that person, we can program it. So you wouldn't, you probably wouldn't be feeling the full effect. So the high consciousness field wouldn't per se cause the migraine, but if the body requires more.

water or more hydrating fluid to adapt and upgrade due to the positive influence that it's now receiving. And you don't do that, then as a result of that, your body will, you know, go into it's, it's story, if it's migraines or Arthritis, or you know, whatever it is. We all have our little things, right?

Will: So then the reason for my feeling just slight effects is not because I'm some dumb dude who can't feel energy, but rather because I didn't drink enough water. Now I get it. You

Karen: did this to yourself.

Clayten: very possibly. Well, why don't I give you a hydration [00:23:00] hack right now. So, what we found out is that if you buy aloe vera, aloe vera juice, and you mix it with your water, and like, water doesn't taste good to a lot of us, it's just like we get tired drinking it, right? So, if we take aloe vera, and maybe it's got a little bit of flavoring in it, or a little bit of sugar, of course, and if we mix it with the water, aloe vera seems to super hydrate our body really quick. So you can go like, like I have a water bottle around me a lot of times now because I just need to drink a lot of water on the service. And if I'm starting to feel dehydrated, I put some, um, well, I don't put it in the bottle because the aloe vera makes me have to clean my water bottle. All the time, right?

Because it's got aloe vera in it, but I have a cup of aloe vera and I take a little sip of aloe vera and a sip of water and I can really get my hydration up. Like I can, it's almost like 4x level. It'll, it'll bring it up really fast, but then I do have to drink water, To keep it there, but it really kind of gets me there fast.

that helps because, you know, like if you're thirsty, you're [00:24:00] already dehydrated. And once you're hydrated, you seem to want to drink more water. It's a bit of a paradox, right?

Will: And then the inverse, you tend to want to go to the restroom more often, which is a challenge for people my age, but

Clayten: Yeah.

Jeffrey: I, and I think the, uh, the aloe helps with that because you've got a lot of minerals. And, you know, amino acids and other things in there. So you know, it's adding what the water needs. So your mineral water balance stays good in the body. So you don't have to just immediately get it out of the body.

Will: that is such a great hack. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's going on our shopping list immediately. Thank you for that. I'm excited because we are now going to allow the folks listening or watching to feel the effects of the life focus, life force energy.

So, you mentioned at before we started recording that you can activate the field around us now so that when people are listening, they'll be able to feel it. So first of all, is this true? [00:25:00] Second of all, can you activate it so we can all feel it?

Jeffrey: Yeah. Do you want to activate it Clayton while I talk about it?

Clayten: Okay

Jeffrey: So this is. a, uh, use of unique identifier. So in this case, we're identifying everyone listening to this program. Anytime in the future, a field is activated. So that field, will be, I believe 700 on the Hawkins map, Clayton. So that's a bit higher.

We do have a boost. We have boosts that are at 600 and 850 for the service in the, in the customer portal. So this is just a higher consciousness level. It's pretty unusual in the world. You would have to go to some pretty rare, pilgrimage spots to find it. and it seems to have the, you know, the effect of just up leveling everything.

maybe we should just, we could take a moment, whatever you guys think to... Let people feel

Will: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. if it's just my mind or what it is, but I'm thinking I'm feeling it. Maybe cause I'm [00:26:00] just drinking water right now. But, Karen, you're a lot more sensitive than me. Do you feel anything? I feel

Karen: something, but I don't know. It's like, am I just imagining that I'm feeling

Will: something?

I know that's what I'm thinking too. Is it just my mind? Is it just my imagination? But, it wasn't immediate. It wasn't like a light switch. it kind of built, I'm feeling it now.

Jeffrey: Yeah,

Will: what are you feeling, Karen?

Karen: Just like it's, um, just like tingly, just like, I don't know. It's like open. It's hard to describe. I don't maybe, I mean, I hope that's what I'm feeling. I hope it's the right thing. No, just like this. Um, Just like my, my head feels open and I don't know that it's hard to explain is that, is that wrong?

Jeffrey: but nothing's wrong, of course. I feel it that way. I feel it through my central core. I feel like a tingling and like an uplifted feeling. Like I'm gonna... Bounce off the ceiling?

Will: See, I'm feeling like I'm going to cry. That's weird. But like light almost like hollow, like, I'm feeling like [00:27:00] I'm, I'm stretching the bounds of my body. Does that make sense? It sounds weird coming out of my mouth. It just feels like, the body's lighter. I'm, pressing at the boundaries. I'm going beyond it almost. It just feels like, like I'm, I'm feeling super emotional, which is not like me. So,

Clayten: You know, you're probably experiencing a heart chakra opening, uh, well, and I think Kara and Karen is experiencing a, uh, probably a pineal gland activation is my assumption

Will: Yeah, this is amazing listener, watcher, you, I'm talking to you specifically. I would love to please go to skepticmaniposition. com, send us a voicemail, let us know if you felt it at which point in the video or in the audio you felt it, or send us an email, get in touch with us because I'm really curious to see.

How it translates outside of this immediate bubble that we're in here. especially if you're listening to it a little bit later on, because what fascinates me is what you said, Jeffrey, about the fact that at any time, when [00:28:00] someone listens to this, the field will activate at the point of the moment that they're listening.

So this quantum stuff, so trippy, it's so trippy, but so cool at the same time.

Clayten: Yeah. It's kind of surreal when I was working with the machine a lot. I mean, I would put my hand in the output stack and then see what would happen to me. You know, we do all these experiments. And,

Will: on purpose, you weren't afraid it wasn't going to bite you back or something? I don't know, if you're talking Tesla, I feel like there'd be like electricity there that might... Yeah,

Clayten: in and taking them out. Right? So we figured a few seconds to be okay. So it's like 2 seconds. And then you kind of sit with it for a few minutes. Like, we are and then 4 seconds and then 6 seconds and then 8 seconds. And this guy's been working with the technology For years. So he was, you know, he'd done it a lot. So I was just experimenting slowly and I seen how the machine was made and I helped him make some parts. I helped him make a lot of upgrades because I was really sick. And I, he was helping me a lot. I, we spent a lot of time together you know, it's like, there's this one thing that he made that I haven't seen anywhere else.

It's like, but how does that thing [00:29:00] create that result? And I've seen him make it I've seen it all and I still. And kind of like, wow, how does that work? Just, I don't know. It's just how it is.

Will: how does that work? That is the question of the day.

Clayten: Yeah. How does that work?

Will: so again, I don't know... What I'm feeling. I don't know if it's just my imagination, but I definitely feel even it's in my mind It's a really wonderful feeling. So whatever I'll take it all day long. Well to your point you said the boost When we put the field around our house the thing that I felt the most was In meditations, I meditate every day and there was a time where I was having a really difficult time getting to level but when I, initiated the, the field in the house, those times when I would meditate, those times I would drop down immediately and get a really deep meditation.

That's, that's really how I felt it, uh, in the time. I'm feeling it differently this time around. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. It's the only way to explain it.

Jeffrey: There's something [00:30:00] about a high consciousness field that Thins the veil in some ways. So some people feel like they can connect In the ways, they normally connect kind of better or more easily And the mind seems to quiet as well So, you know, whatever chatter, whatever mind chatter level of consciousness is, probably depends what you're thinking about.

But that in a higher loving environment, like the 550, the mind seems to quiet and even more at 700. And I think if we went to 850, which is the, our other boost, we probably would be more quiet than we would be talking. You know, we might just be sitting, looking at each other.

Will: And I know that your boost is only for a certain amount of time. I think it was two minutes or something like that. Is it, is there any danger about, uh, with staying at this level of consciousness for an extended period of time?

Clayten: yeah, our research indicates that like 700, which is the boost we have on now, is the most that we can share with the public. on an ongoing basis, so there is, uh, it's not so much a danger, [00:31:00] but the mission of the company is to support the evolution of consciousness in an economized society.

So that's where we all have to go to work. We have to, you know, pay our mortgage, pay our rent, whatever we got to feed ourselves. We have to create some value in the world and receive the benefits from the world. Jeff and I have talked about one day maybe having a program for monks in a cave, you know, who have somebody taking care of them.

And all I have to do is just meditate if you, if you will, you know, will, uh, or just focus on the consciousness. They don't really have to function that high. So unconditional love was the range that we determined was in the highest and best interest of all creation for us to, to support people with. And that's sort of in line with the stewardship, stewardship of the technology is to try to really. Keep focused on what's in the highest and best interest of all creation, instead of what we think. Now, you know, we're, we're people that want the best for others. And most people do want the best for others. And there is a little different level of. Awareness you have to have when you have [00:32:00] this much power.

You really have to a lot of time praying about what's in the best and that we use a lot of kinesiology to test that. So that's just a little dip into our philosophy of why that number and why that range and and why the mission.

Karen: it sounds like it's a good starting point because unconditional love is a feeling that People aspire to, but I think if you get beyond that, too fast, too soon, it would just blow their minds. They wouldn't be able to handle it.

Jeffrey: there seems to be a nervous system acclimation as well. that, you know, from what we understand, you have your digital nervous system, your synapses firing, and then you have your, analog nervous system, which is the myelin sheath and the connective tissue that runs throughout your bodies.

And so there's energy running through that all the time. It's how the team moves around that. When you have a lot more chi and you have a lot higher consciousness level, more, more energy the nervous system needs to adapt to that and maybe perhaps get bigger, thicker, [00:33:00] however, whatever it does to be able to carry more energy, like a bigger wire carry, carries more, you know, more electrical energy.

Karen: What drew you to this? What made you find this machine and think, we can make it better?

Clayten: And the phone rang. he was holding this marble in his hand. And then when, the phone call was over, he, uh, realized the arthritis was gone in his right hand. He didn't, he wasn't in pain anymore. So he picked up the marble with his other hand, held on to it for ten minutes, and the arthritis was gone. So then he's like, wow, this is interesting, I wonder if it's healed. So he didn't hold any of the pieces of marble for a while, and in about two weeks it It started to come back a little bit. So he started charging up this old broken Marvel tabletop that he got from Recycling Depot. And started sending it all over the world to [00:34:00] people that had arthritis, And they would use it for a while and they would send it back. And then it was like, it's getting expensive, you know. All these shipping fees, like courier fees. Marvel's not cheap, they're all over the world. And you know, they were paying for it.

Will & Karen: Or light.

Clayten: So, he is, uh, you know, we don't make health claims, but that's what was happening. And when we were, we were sitting down and we were thinking, oh, gosh, it would be nice not to have to ship all this marble all over the world to help these people. the output stack's really high, right? So one guy took a bottle of water and put it on the marble.

And he charged up the water and then he sprayed the water on his, on his arms and everything so that he wouldn't have to carry the marble around all day because he the marble. So he, so some people came up with some creative stuff. So one day we were sitting down just praying, it's like, Oh, is there some way we can do this?

Lord, you know, please help us. We'd like to, you know, be able to be of more service to more people. And I had the thought, take a picture of the piece of marble that the person has. Over in Europe, and it will associate with that piece of marble and charge it up remotely. That's how [00:35:00] we figured out that the machine could do quantum association.

I'm not trying to take credit for it. I didn't build the machine, but that's the thought that we had. As a result of that experience, and that's just how it happened. It's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of little, like, magic thoughts that where did that come from?

Will: Yeah, usually how it works, right? That divine intervention is what you mentioned earlier. hundreds of tiny miracles have to happen for any kind of progress to move forward. So I think this is a great time to then touch on the, um, on the good that you're doing with this company.

Jeffrey: So we, we have the F Lift V system and it has a certain capacity, very large capacity. To, you know, millions of, of homes could be on it and more than 90 percent of that energy is used for service projects that we don't, you know, we don't get paid for.

These are kind of under the, under the radar service projects. there might be. you know, something that happened, some major storm or some war zone [00:36:00] or some historical, place that we've become aware of. Like, like the, we did a project on the concentration camps in Poland and Germany to create a positive consciousness field there and help to heal, heal the land and heal the consciousness fields that were there that were very low.

So that's the kind of projects that we do. And so we spend, you know, more than 90 percent of the energy of the system, doing those.

Will: So this is really a spiritual practice and you are helping to not just raise the consciousness of the world, but you're, doing things is as a service to the world where they needed the most, whether or not they even know about you. That's astounding. Let me take a moment because I got, I gotta say one of the.

the downsides of activating the field, uh, at 700, uh, at this particular point in time, because is that all I want to do is just sit here and enjoy the feeling. I don't, it's making it really difficult to think about anything else right now. So, [00:37:00] this trial is open to anyone, anyone can go to your website and you can activate.

Uh, either, your residence field or the mobile or cellular phone field. Uh, and they, they can drive for 15, days and then after that, then they can feel free to subscribe at that point. what's the, what's the best way for someone to, to take advantage of this?

Jeffrey: When there's no credit card as well. So that we felt strongly that no credit card, no automatic billing, no accidental

Will & Karen: love that.

Jeffrey: So it's 15 days of each. So you can do the home and you can do the phone for 15 days. Um, and we've just recently changes. So you can do both at the same time if you wished. It's a gift. You know, we designed the two weeks as a length of time where something could really happen that's positive for the person and for the home, it's clearing the negative history, the negative energy that's historical that, like we talked about in a hotel [00:38:00] room, that's accumulated over, you know, millennia.

Will & Karen: clear?

Jeffrey: land where your house is now located, that may be affecting you so that free trial on a home does that clearing, and that's a gift, you know, that goes on.

Karen: Is there any way that people should prepare themselves if they're going to activate this? Do they need to, I don't know, clear their minds? Is there anything that they need to do or can they just turn it on?

Clayten: an email that goes out when you come on the service and there's dozens of ways to help you recognize the service in your environment. So some people, you know, some people's gift to the world is that they're thick skinned and they're typically the pioneering, uh, persistent types, you know, and that's their gift.

Some are very sensitive. And sometimes people notice it more in their pets than they'll notice it in themselves right away, or their plants. Or there's a lot of wildlife that comes to the house, or their friends come over and they really, and they kind of don't want to leave, they just hang out, you know.

Because they really like it [00:39:00] there, and it's not that they wouldn't like it before, but there's just more of that. So there's about, there's a couple dozen of those things that, I can't think of them all right now, but,

Will: so basically, if you don't want people in your house, don't activate this.

Karen: And if you, if you have it on your phone and it, how is it a 300 feet radius on your phone? Is that what?

Jeffrey: So there is, there is a 300 foot radius bubble around the phone that's at, at a lower consciousness level than the main service. So right at nine feet around the phone is this is 580 on the Hawkins map kind of coming in. So the, the phone. Brings energy in because it's compensating for wherever the phone is located, right?

You might be next to a transformer, you know, you might be out on an airplane, so it's kind of doing its best by bringing energy in the home service. The property service is guaranteed because it's compensating for the geopathic stress for and it's clearing the history of what was there and it's [00:40:00] more You know, it's stationary.

So there's, the ability to create a field and have it be stable. and they both do the EMF mitigation, both the phone and, property service. And we have a lot of research now on the, the positive effect, the, the relief that people have felt from the symptoms.

Karen: Yeah. That's wonderful. So kind of like at your house, if people want to start hanging out all the time, maybe you're walking down the street with your phone and people are kind of walking with

Will: you. That explains the Pied Piper all over

Will & Karen: again.

Karen: I love

Will: this so much. Oh, me too. not only do I.

I would like you to, if you're listening to this or watching this to reach out to me, go and get the free trial, get the two weeks at your home and do the boost. If you are a meditator, do the boost right as you're going into it, because it will set you up for that meditation so nicely.

That's exactly what happened to me. But then when you do that, reach out, let us know how you're feeling it, what you're feeling. I'm so[00:41:00] not just curious about this, but I think everybody needs to do this. I think everybody needs to know about it. And can you imagine if everybody's walking around with a 600?

Your consciousness level, um, how much nicer the world would be. It's, I mean, I feel incredible right now.

Karen: Well, I was just thinking you have to make sure you're not like in a work meeting or something because honestly, I just totally like zoned out and I was like sitting in the backseat of the car, listening to y'all talk and just didn't even want to say anything.

I'm like, let's talk, say something. No, this is so nice. So you have to be in a situation where you can just relax.

Jeffrey: Yeah, that's, I mean, that's why the boost is 600. So it's quite a bit lower than 700, the norm, the, the longer boost. And then the 850 really is for meditation or for really centering yourself. but people use the 600 for kids doing homework, for after school, you know, energy's kind of low, they've been going all day and that extra boost of energy, it really kind of helps smooth the transition through homework and into dinner and [00:42:00] bed.

Will: Well, and I invite everybody to go to your site and look at the research. we have a very limited amount of time to talk about this on the show, but there's so much you can dive into on your site that if you are pragmatic like me, and you need to see studies and research and science behind what we're talking about, you can find it there.

There's a lot there that you can dive into. we're going to add a direct link on our show notes. So if you go to skepticmenoposition. com, go to their episode page, you'll find the link directly there. all you need to do is hit it and you'll be, you'll have access to everything, including the trial, everything you need to know.

Jeffrey Clayton. Thank you. Yes. Uh, thank you. But it feels like it's not even, it's not even sufficient to say thank you. What you're doing is. unbelievable and so needed and so wonderful and it's, it just feels so selfless. that just thank you doesn't seem to be enough, not just for what you're doing, but for coming on the show and sharing this with us and with our audience.

Clayten: [00:43:00] You're welcome. We were doing a little, I was sort of looking at your website the other day and making a bunch of notes for the, for the conversation. And 1 of the thoughts that came to me is that, you know, have you ever considered just changing your podcast name to metafunzicians instead of skeptical metaphysicians? Because you're quite fun.

Karen: I love that.

Clayten: fun. And you're like nice people. And it's like, you're not really hardcore skeptical. You're kind of like, you're fun. So anyway, let's just go off at a head by the chariot.

Karen: I love that.

Will: We are so thrilled to have connected with you. is there anything that you want to make sure that you get across to the folks listening or watching that we haven't touched on right now?

Jeffrey: I'll mention that we, you know, we all do our part. in raising the conscious of the planet. You know, there's whatever we do, whatever our path is. And, you know, Clayton and I have brought the FLFE in the consciousness fields and also our way of doing business as a spiritual path,

But part of the FLFE is a giving. You know, it's not only for ourselves and our family, but it [00:44:00] radiates throughout the world. And we also give, as part of a subscription, a, um, pay it forward subscription. It's free and it goes indefinitely. They can put anywhere in the world.

Will: So glad you mentioned that. Oh,

Karen: that's

Will: fantastic. Yeah. I'm kicking myself for not bringing it up, but that's, that is, it goes right along with what I said earlier about the fact that this is all about. you paying it forward to helping humanity. It's just incredible. anything on, on your side that you want to make sure that you get across?

Clayten: In many ways, business, uh, has a bad rap in the world, you know, and in some ways business has earned it. there's been a lot of negative things done in the name of profit. And if you, you know, if you take that same thought, you could say there's been a lot of negative things done in the name of just about everything, but business is a big influence on the world.

And, I just invite people to consider that business can be a spiritual path. You can still make a profit. You can do good in the world. You can pay people. Well, you can create a nice environment and create a good service. And in some ways, business has helped us all evolve. [00:45:00] Because it's just the, it's a very efficient way to distribute the resources of the world.

And right now there's a lot of conversations about different philosophies that are not in support of business There's a lot of reminders of all the negative things that business is doing, especially in the environmental realm. you know, we're not particularly religious.

I consider myself a spiritual student. But our prayers with this technology was, you know, how do we distribute it best in the world? And, we only have so many personal resources. So we could build this technology and, and just give it away. And we have done lots of that. But at some point, if you want to share your gifts with the world, business could be the best avenue to do that. And if you're fortunate enough to be wealthy enough to, you know, have the income from dividends or whatever, whatever your model of financial freedom is, then you could just give it all away. But for us, business as a spiritual path was the way to steward this out into the world and share it with humanity.

And I just want to thank you for For helping us do that.

Will: Oh, no, [00:46:00] it is our pleasure. And to your point, as we transition from three to five D, the world transitions, our thought process, what is successful transitions with it. we've noticed ourselves on this show, the more that we are in service to others, the more, Successful to show becomes. So if you change your mindset to your point, change your mindset to help others, that abundance will come if you're focused on profit, like unfortunately, a lot of the country, a lot of the world is right now, you fall into the scarcity mindset, which then, uh, you have to work harder to get that abundance or that, sense of, just say an abundance.

Uh, I, I can't think anymore. What, one question. Can you leave this field on for April?

Karen: Can you leave it on until April 30th?

Jeffrey: can, you can just play a tape in the background.

Will & Karen: Oh, put it on loop over.

Will: You guys are full of hacks. This is perfect. I'm going to do that. Yeah. Oh

Clayten: [00:47:00] Yeah. You have to be,

Will: Thank you guys very

Clayten: you have to be within the sound of the recording for it to work,

Will: Okay. Okay. Yep. Yep. So earbuds in, in no surround

Karen: sound. Gentlemen.

Will & Karen: Thank

Will: you so much. We are, you're going to. We definitely are going to subscribe for sure. This is, this has been incredible.

I really appreciate your taking the time and explaining this to us because, I needed to understand it. I knew it was incredible, but I didn't know how incredible it was until just now. So thank you so much for coming on, sharing this with us and sharing it with the world. and I know we're going to have a lot more conversation coming forward.

Clayten: forward to it.

Jeffrey: Thank you for all you do.

Will: And a huge thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options out there and having you decide to come along on our journey of discovery with us is an absolute honor for us. we'd love for you to contribute by sending us a voicemail or an email from our website, or leave us a review on Apple podcasts or any other podcasting platform that supports them.

Karen and I [00:48:00] love hearing from those that are moved to message us. It truly does fuel our passion. You are the reason we do this show and knowing what you like and don't like, help us craft the very best show we can so that we can help raise the vibration of the planet together. Well, that's all for now, but we'll see you on the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then, take care.