DEEP TRANSFORMATION Without Reliving Past Traumas

Will & Karen: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes. Quick question. Okay. If you could totally clear out all of the emotional, physical, and mental clutter in your body and mind, like poof, would you do it? I don't know because I think there would be nothing left of me.

You might have. Like some eyes and hair. Well, the best part about this actually is that you don't have to relive any embarrassing childhood memories. or even that one family Thanksgiving where you tried to make gluten free stuffing. I didn't. Today's guest has a method that's like a spiritual power wash for your soul.

Minus the trip down cringe memory lane. It promises transformation without reliving the greatest hits of our past traumas. That means that you can have a deep, Soul cleanse without having to unpack your middle, middle school goth phase. It was college. Did I reveal too much?

Okay. Well, how about. Maybe it's like a spa day for your entire energy field. Science [00:01:00] meets spirituality with none of the existential side eye. All right. Sounds pretty good, right? Well, this method is half as good as it sounds. I might finally stop worrying about, you know, that thing I said when I was in the fourth grade.

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Will & Karen: Hey there, I'm Will. And I'm Karen. And today's guest is a true alchemist of the soul, blending decades of corporate expertise, with a deep dive into the metaphysical. See, she began her journey transforming organizations by clearing out dysfunctional energy and realigning people, processes, and technology to create powerful outcomes.

But now. Well, now she's answering a higher call. See, with her revolutionary soul intelligence method, she's shifting energy at the deepest levels, helping people reconnect with their higher selves, heal fully, and align with their soul's mission with the physical and energetic world. Well, this method isn't just a tool, it's a portal.

It's a transformation allowing for profound healing across [00:04:00] the mind, body, spirit, and energetic fields. Get ready to explore the depths of soul intelligence with the remarkable Christine Genovese. Welcome to the show, Christine, who I just butchered your last name.

Kristine: You actually

did fantastic.

Will & Karen: All right.

Kristine: think, I, think all my relatives would be really pleased.

Will & Karen: Okay. Well, then please, please be sure to send this episode to them because this is a first for me and I got to celebrate one way or another.

Kristine: Oh, it's awesome. I'm really excited to be here

with both of you. Wow. We're excited too. I'm particularly excited because as I was doing some research into this episode your method is super inspiring and I am jonesing out a bit to get into it. I don't think that's the right term. Chomping at the bit or just Jones. Well, it's because you're officially getting kicked out of Gen X.

Will & Karen: No. See, was I ever in Gen X? I see. The thing is that I'm Jonesy cause I haven't had it and I'm chomping in the bit cause I want it. So I'm kind of mixed the [00:05:00] two. See, it's by design. Everything I do is by design, except for that stuff I said in the fourth grade. okay. So tell us about your method because I just want to get right into it.

Kristine: Oh my goodness, absolutely, I'd be happy to. Well, the method itself functions on the science of bioenergetics. So that's been around since the 1950s. And essentially what it says is that when you physically don't feel well, typically mentally and emotionally, you're not doing well. And the converse is true, right?

Mentally and emotionally, you're not doing well physically. There's usually something that's off. And if you think about when you go to the doctor, Right. You, the doctor's always asking you, so what else is going on in your life? Right. Is it, you know, what's going on at home? What's going on with the kids, what's going on at work.

And it's all this other stuff, the mental and emotional stuff that we tend to overlook when something physically goes wrong in the body. And essentially Everything, everybody and everything is energy. So I know you were talking about, you know, being a teenager, but if we rewind it a little bit more back to fourth [00:06:00] grade, everybody and everything is energy, right?

We're protons, neutrons, electrons. We've all got these energetic fields and we all vibrate, right? We're all, you know, some of, we can see each other through the power of the internet at the moment, but we, but I can't see the waves actually coming to you. I can see you. So it's kind of like the radio too. We can hear, the waves, but we can't actually see them.

So I think people are getting more of a sense of how quantum field works and energy works, but essentially when energy is not in motion, particularly in the body. So emotions are energy in motion. When they are not in motion, when they get stuck in the body and they pool, they cause dis ease within the body or dysfunction in the body or a dissonance in the frequency.

And so then you go to the doctor cause something physically has gone wrong.

Will & Karen: Mm hmm.

Kristine: So in essence, what I'm doing is getting to the root cause of what illness is which is really a disruption in the frequency.

Will & Karen: What I like about the most is what [00:07:00] I mentioned in the introduction is that you don't have to go down that memory lane, right? A lot of times you go to cognitive behavioral therapy or something like that where you actually have to relive these strong physical, you know, experiences. emotional traumas that have shaped you.

Now, from my understanding, this is something that we don't have to go through with your method. Is that not right?

Kristine: No, that's absolutely right. You don't have, yes, you nailed it. Yeah. So like with therapy, right. In order to get to the emotion, they have to put you back in that scenario and you have to relive it. And it's very painful. So my method, essentially I have a book of charts and a pendulum and getting into what I call a sacred space.

I'm able to discern what is stuck. So whether that's a self limiting belief, whether that's negative energies, emotions, and thoughts, whether that's old trauma, okay. Unresolved trauma, whether that's repetitive pattern, whatever that is, I'm able to assess what it is and help it come up from the [00:08:00] subconscious mind to the conscious mind to be released.

Cause a lot of times people are like, I don't know what's wrong. And they don't know that they're carrying around like some hurt when they were left at the grocery store at age five that's affecting the way they manage their company today. You know, in terms of feeling abandoned. So it's all of those things that are stuck that I'm able to bring up for, you know, focus and, and, you know, Release.

So do some people cry? Yeah, sure. Sometimes there's an emotional release. Most of the time, people are like, how the heck did you know that? You know, and it's not me. It's really the information that's coming through me when being revealed, you know, using the charts. And that's the coolest thing, like working with doctors, right?

Getting patients to be compliant is really difficult. I'm like, all you got to do is show up to a Zoom session. That's it. You show up, it's happening. You get to receive. So I think that's probably the coolest thing about the

method.

Will & Karen: I have a, it's similar, but different. So I have an aunt, she actually passed away [00:09:00] several years ago, but she studied, I want to say about 30 years ago, she went to Germany and studied bioenergetic medicine.

Kristine: Mmm.

Will & Karen: And she would do treatments on people where they would hold up, like, I don't know, a little vial of something and she would test if they could pull their fingers apart or different balance things and just kind of seeing what was needed.

so for something like what she was doing, she was getting results, I would, now listening to you, I'm assuming that those results would be somewhat temporary. Because if what, if it's an emotional trauma that's causing you to be lacking this, then you can supplement it, I guess, somehow, and then, but you're not ever fixing the emotional trauma.

Kristine: right?

right. You're not actually releasing it. You're not bringing it up and acknowledging it and allowing it to shift, right? Because our cells, like our whole, our physical body is really our subconscious mind. In essence, right? We only use 5 percent of our actual mind for all that strategizing, thinking, calculating, all this stuff we do up here all day.

And if you look at how powerful our hearts are, there's actually a six [00:10:00] foot wide magnetic field around our hearts. So while everything starts according to the HeartMath Institute. Yeah, it's a six foot wide energy field. Think about that for a second. We weren't allowed to be six, within six feet of someone.

Anyway, okay.

Will & Karen: But our hearts had no, no boundaries. No, they were, they had the six foot limit too. The hearts, the hearts were out there, man.

Kristine: But when you think about it. So when you talk about, you know, how the quantum field works. Or electromagnet field. Magnetic field. The electric spark is the idea, the intention, what starts in the mind, right? Everything starts internal first before it's created externally.

So that's where the, the initial electric spark is. What magnetizes things to you? What brings things into you is feeling emotion, you know? And if we think about it, you mentioned Gen Xers. I happen to be one of them. We were taught all through, all through work world, right? There's no crying in baseball.

You are not allowed to be emotional at work, right? There's none of that stuff. And it was all about [00:11:00] stuffing emotions.

Will & Karen: Mm hmm.

Kristine: And in essence, what that does is it causes dis ease within the body. I personally had a cervical cancer scare at one point where I had gone into the doctor's office and I was told, Hey, we did a biopsy in office, you have too many, you know, funky cells, we're going to have to send you to the hospital for a conical biopsy, where they put you under and they're going to take out more of your cervix.

And I was like, wait a minute, cancer? And they're like, yeah. I was like, oh gosh, what am I going to do now? So I used my method on myself and I called every freaking healer I knew. So I was like, We're not fooling around with this. And then I had another girlfriend who is a healer and an energy worker who said to me, Hey, by the time you go to have the conical biopsy, it's going to be gone.

And so I held that intention and I saw myself just being healthy and this being just routine and matter of fact, and I really focused on changing my internal [00:12:00] condition. I went through the conical biopsy and I'll never forget the look on the OBGYN face because she came out and she was like, Maybe we cut it all out.

It's gone. Okay, so that's where I go. Yeah, maybe we did Why that's relevant, okay, when I tell you it's all emotion, okay, at the, the cervix is really the womb, right, like the heart of womanhood, okay, so, or the second chakra area, and that's where we birth ideas, we birth babies. And my whole career, corporate career, it was all about wanting to be a man, working twice as hard as a man.

I have to do better. I have to do more. I've got to make more money. I would even make fun of being a woman. I had, you know, I made sure I used very male language, you know, God gave me boys. There was a reason, you know, I played sports, right. You know, it was all men, men, men. And I really saw women as weak.

And so during that period, I really focused on, you know, one [00:13:00] healer told me I needed to embrace my femininity. And I was like, okay what does that mean? You know, you're divine feminine. I was like, okay, what am I supposed to wear my hair long? Am I supposed to get dresses? Should I dance? What does that mean?

And it really meant. You know, looking at powerful women like goddesses like Sekhmet or, you know, Kali Ma, like these powerful deities, right, that were women, as opposed to looking at, you know, crying as being weak. And so it was really doing all that feminine work that I believe restored everything within my body.

Now, could we have cut it all out? Yeah, I'm sure we cut some of it out. But Everybody has cancer cells. It's a matter of whether they're going to bloom in somebody's body or not. So I do believe you can change your internal condition, but that's how powerful our emotions are. So that's that, you know, then there's a simple example of we have a cold.

It's usually mind confusion, right? Like you can go from one end to the other to know what the root cause underlying what's going [00:14:00] physically wrong in the body. So to me, by the time it gets to the body, that's like your physical, physical barometer, letting you know, something's wrong. I got to do something about it.

Will & Karen: Okay, so you use your pendulum and you figure out what's wrong and then what?

Kristine: I'm going to have to do a

session for you too.

Will & Karen: Well, I mean, imagine that.

Kristine: maybe. Yes. So in essence, as the things come up, so. The person can acknowledge that basically, and then I asked to have it shifted, right? Because once energy is created, all you can do is transmute it into something else. It doesn't just disappear, right?

So I ask it to come up and out of the body and sent back for transmutation into, you know, love and light or, or, you know, back to the underworld. Should it, should it need to go there to restore the balance between dark and light? It depends on what it is.

Will & Karen: So then what happens to the person, they've had these experiences, it's caused this trauma and this negative energy, which has affected them physically. So you, you have your session with them, but they still have those [00:15:00] memories. Do they just not re, like if they, if they revisit those memories, do they just not react to them the same way or how, what, what change happens?

Kristine: That's a great question. You know,

Will & Karen: She's always got all the good questions. Always.

Kristine: so yeah, I mean, in essence, you know, you, what, during the session, people sometimes, you know, have an experience to where maybe they feel lighter after the session or they feel like more at peace. You know, some people might feel tired. Other people might get energized. Everybody reacts to energy differently.

And the best way for me to describe it is it's like an energetic massage or, you know, you go to the chiropractor for a biomechanical adjustment. This is a bioenergetic adjustment. So it's kind of similar. And then what I ask is that people pay attention to how they feel over the course of the next few days and coming weeks.

And notice, Oh, That doesn't trigger me the way it used to, or, Oh, I don't feel exactly the same way now that this happened. I guess, you know, for example, I [00:16:00] work with a lot of healthcare providers, so that's what's really cool, right? Working with functional medicine, MDs nurse practitioners I'm really, really pleased that I get to do this holistic healing with them.

Will & Karen: I'm going to need a list of doctors that you work with cause I'm looking for them right now

Kristine: Okay. Well, we'll just figure out what area you're in and definitely I will hook you up. but you know, in terms of, I remember I've worked with one and typically before I work with a doctor, I do a session for them. So they have a personal experience, right. And a comfort level recommending me to their patient.

So I remember this one doctor, I did a session for her and she was really struggling because her husband was kind of like meddling in her business. he was being helpful, he thought, but it was really causing her stress. he really wanted her to move her practice.

And then she was like, well, should I have a second one? Or should I even be here anyway? And so it was starting to make her question. So she wasn't feeling really great. And so I did a session and we figured out what was going on. And literally the next day she sent me a text and she's [00:17:00] like, Oh my God, I don't know what you did, but my husband is acting completely differently.

And she's like, how did you do that with me? And he's acting different.

Will & Karen: That's what I want to know. Cause that's a little weird. That's a little scary.

Kristine: so if you think about it, we're all energetic beings, right? When you shit. Somebody else is going to react to you differently. And sometimes what we hold, right, as energetic beings, especially if you're a couple or you're in close proximity with people, you pick up their stuff

too, right? we're all like these magnetic, energetic beings.

So I was not only clearing stuff for her, but I was clearing stuff that she was holding for him. And so that I have chills. So when that occurs, right, sorry, that's my truth meter. And I was like, Oh but anyway when that occurs, it's really, really cool. I've also worked with a doctor and his wife to where I separately, like I work with each of them and then I keep the sessions, I'm like, if you two want to talk about your sessions, you can, unless I'm doing a joint session.

I keep that, you know. [00:18:00] separation, but they had noticed how their marriage changed by me working on one and working on the other. And then I worked on them as a couple together and how they were considering separating and then came back together. Cause they, we were able to shift what was stuck between the two of them that they couldn't necessarily verbalize or, you know, baggage they brought into the relationship they didn't know was still affecting their relationship.

Will & Karen: So then that song is right that when you shift, I shift, we shift. Oh, no way. That's when I dip, you dip, we dip. No, no, no. I don't know that song. No. No. So I wonder

Kristine: it's something like that. Yes,

for sure.

Will & Karen: I wonder how much also could be the fact that when you change someone's, the way they perceive things, the way they feel about things, maybe the husband is acting the same way, but they're so changed that they interpret it differently.

Tell her it's a good question too. Go ahead. Mm hmm.

Kristine: very true. It could be right. If we were shifting a self limiting belief, like I'm invisible. Okay. Have you ever felt invisible in a relationship? [00:19:00] Somebody is not paying attention to you.

Will & Karen: Not in the relationship, just in life. So

Kristine: on the list or you don't even make the list, you know, in terms of priority. So yes, it's possible. If we shift a belief like that, could their perception change? Absolutely. But. In addition to that, there are multiple things that come up in a session that we're moving up and out.

So for me to be able to pinpoint which specific thing is difficult, but that's a great perception. It absolutely could be that way as well

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

Will: And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians.

Will & Karen: is it permanent, the changes? Karen mentioned the bioengineering stuff, bioengineering, bioenergy, bioenergetic medicine. That's, yeah, [00:20:00] that's what I said. She mentioned that was potentially temporary. Because the emotional content behind it wasn't released. Is this the, the soul intelligence method?

Does that help you to actually release since you can put it behind you for good? Or is this something you have to do one session now and then another session in a month now and another session six months from now or something like that?

Kristine: It depends do you have issues or subscriptions you know just in terms of how much work needs to

be done in your life

Will & Karen: well, that's a good way to put it. I might subscribe to a whole lot of things actually. I'm thinking about it.

Kristine: Well, you have to understand too, like we're onions, right? There's lots of layers and depending on your faith and what you believe, you know, and how you perceive time.

Okay. I'll get into the time discussion. I really believe it's spatial, not linear, but we'll, okay. But if we talk about past lives versus present life versus future life or concurrent lives or alternate dimensions or all kinds of craziness, right, there's things [00:21:00] happening simultaneously. And so there's a lot of layers.

So could we get it out of one and maybe it's still in another? Sure. I once worked with a nurse who was she had shingles. Okay. So super, super painful. She was out of work for almost a year by the time her physician, yeah, her physician referred her to me and she had tried everything. I mean, every ketamine, all kinds of drugs, mushrooms, she's tried PTSD therapy, tapping.

I mean, everything. And until we worked together, we weren't able to get things to shift. Now I worked with her over a series of months because what we uncovered wasn't just the root cause of the shingles, but it was also causing her to have insomnia, and not be able to work and to pick up a lot of lower force energy.

And as a nurse, like working around sick people all the time, she had to learn ways to kind of protect her energy. So she wouldn't keep. You know, having these things repeat in essence. So the answer to your question, honestly, is it [00:22:00] depends, right? You could look at this, like I do this for myself every week, you know, cause I want to keep my energy clear and I'm working with a lot of people and I'm moving a lot of energy.

But it's kind of like a massage. How often do you get one of those, right? I'll do one. You know, if I, if it's a good month, it's every other week, you know, it's a bad month, maybe once a month or once every other month, but in essence, right, we're energetic beings. So you're always picking up stuff. We're always having things shift and change.

So is it something that's just, you know, okay, I'm done. You know, I really believe the process of being human is we're never really done, right? We're all working towards embodying our higher selves and moving into those higher states of consciousness. But we're still these spiritual beings having a human experience and we're going to pick up stuff along the way. So, do I think some of the deep trauma can be healed? Absolutely. Like I've seen that, you know, I had another physician Who had foot pain, and she didn't describe the depth of the foot pain to me [00:23:00] until recently and I fixed it a while ago. I got to see her, I just had my book come out about two weeks ago and she was at a book signing, and I go, hey, you're in the book.

Now, when I put people in the book, I just write about their case studies. I don't actually say who it is because, you know, they'll know it was them, right? Okay, so I said, Hey, you're in the book. And she goes, really? And I go, yeah. She goes, so she went up to her room. She flipped the book open and she flipped right to her page.

I'm like, come on.

Will & Karen: Wow.

Kristine: can't make this up. Okay. And then she came down and she said to me, she gave a testimony like in front of a group. 'cause I did a group session, a meditation group, soul intelligence session. And she goes, what I didn't tell Christine at the time was that my foot pain was so bad, I was crawling to the bathroom.

This is a p. a medical doctor that can't fix their own foot. And what we discovered and what I had come up, you know, with during the session was she wasn't able to move forward, hence the foot [00:24:00] issue, because she had these contractors that were, that refused to fix something in her home properly. There was a big lawsuit.

She didn't feel like her lawyer was representing her well, nothing was moving forward. She was stuck. And she couldn't, you know, stand up for herself literally and couldn't move forward. And so we cleared all of that. The next morning she walked

to her office. She couldn't believe it. She was like, what?

I have chills again.

I'm like, I know. So it's just interesting when you see, you know, how the, to me, once it gets to the physical, that's really like, Hey, knucklehead, you got to do something about it, you know, and, and we usually think that's the first sign something's wrong, right? We're finally like, oh yeah, I guess I have to go to the doctor.

We got to figure out why my stomach is always upset.

Will & Karen: there's only one of you, right? So this is gonna get out and you're gonna have a billion gazillion people knocking on your door trying to get this thing done for them. So you actually have taken it a step further, [00:25:00] right? You actually

teach people how to do this. Is that right?

Kristine: Absolutely. Yeah. I have an evergreen online course. My mission in the world is to teach as many people this method as possible and have it be in all kinds of wellness centers across the country so that you can holistically heal just like some alternative therapies, like the benefits of red light therapy, right? You know, the wrinkles and all that kind of good stuff, as well as nutraceutical company. support the body's physical healing, right? We have products that help ship things up and out when it's been stuck in the physical, because sometimes the body needs a kickstart. So I'd rather go the natural route before the farmer route.

there's lots of different ways to heal, but my ultimate mission is the soul intelligence method and to teach others how to do this so that we can heal people. And I have trained practitioners. I have some of them listed on my website who will also take sessions. So. In essence, to duplicate myself as best as possible.

So that you do have options to be [00:26:00] able to schedule not only with me but with them and they're, they're super highly qualified as well.

Will & Karen: obviously people are going to want the original person to do it for them, right? So, and it's not possible, unfortunately, because it's just only one of you, Christine. So I totally understand. But is this something that you can teach people to do for themselves or do they have to go for, to, to a practitioner for this?

Kristine: I, you know, if you are have an interest in healing, I really believe that you can learn the method I taught. RNs. I have taught healers, like, coaches, like, to add it to their coaching practice so they can get to the real root cause of what's going on for somebody and why they're struggling and they're not able to shift.

So I think as long as you have an interest in healing, I can teach pretty much anybody how to do it. Originally, I would just do the method for myself. Right. And then I was like, Oh, this is really good. I think other people need to know how to do that. And I got real brave and I called my functional medicine doctor and I said, Hey, I know, [00:27:00] you know, me as this crazy, you know, corporate stressed out, fried adrenal junkie running across the country, turning companies around, but I have this other thing I can do.

And so that's really how it started. I went to her office and I worked on one of her practitioners. Like she had a Another doctor in the office whose schedule had completely cleared the afternoon I went down, which never happens, right? It's like one of the busiest offices. She's like, I don't remember the last time I had three cancellations.

I go, well, I guess we're supposed to do this. So I did the session for her and she had such a release. She was Crying like bawling. She kicked her water all over the floor, which water tends to represent emotions and emotional release and then my doctor like knocked on the door peeked her head in right at that moment and said Oh, I wanted to see how it was going.

She goes. Wow. I'm next like she was

like so like i'm

Will & Karen: Do me, do me, do me, do me.

Kristine: So, yeah, that's kind of how it worked but I really do want to teach as many [00:28:00] people as possible. The method that's really what I feel my calling is and I do a free group session. Typically everyone. Sorry. The first Wednesday of every month online.

And if people are interested in signing up for that, they can go to my website and that's a cool way to experience it because it's in a group. And I typically look at what's going on energetically in the world, or what have my clients been experiencing that week and kind of pick a theme and kind of clear the group with respect to the theme.

Now, when I work with people one on one, I get very specific. I can figure out. You know, times and incidents and people involved and all of that kind of stuff. But when you're doing it in a group, it's a little bit more general, but people still go, Oh, my gosh, I can't believe how different I feel. And so it's a really nice way for people to experience the method.

Will & Karen: That really sounds wonderful. And I love that you do that free session so people can get a little taste of it. And speaking of that, we have a lot of our, our listeners are new to this whole space. They're curious about it. They're kind of dipping their toes in. for someone who's [00:29:00] interested about it, but maybe a little not fearful, but just nervous, maybe about, about booking a session, what's kind of a general idea of what they would be able to expect in a session?

What is kind of the method ish without giving away too much?

Kristine: you know, most of the time we're human doings, not human beings. Okay, so the first thing is, all you have to do is show up to a Zoom session and receive. That's really truly it. Be open to, to just receiving. And so open mind, open heart. That's like the only requirement. So there really isn't a whole lot that somebody has to do other than being brave enough to schedule a session. But if people want to get to know me or get to know the method a little bit more, like I said, I do the free session the first Wednesday of every month. They can go to my website and sign up for my email list as well. And the website I'm sure you'll put in the show notes, but it's soulintelligencemethod.

com. I also have meditations there. People can get my book there and read about a lot of the, you know, different case studies and how the method [00:30:00] works

and you know, enjoy all that.

Will & Karen: It's a definite rabbit hole. Doing the research for the interview. I was on your site. I don't know how long, because there's so much stuff to do there, but it's great. go to skepticwinterposition. com. You can go to the, her episode page. You'll see the link directly laid in there.

So it's easy for you to access. And I, I do

Kristine: I'm going to want a transcription of this whole thing, because the way you introduced me was like Mac daddy, wicked cool. I'm like, wow, he did some

research

Will & Karen: I think that can be aligned not aligned. That can be. Arranged. Thank you. Arranged. That can be arranged. See, I am all discombobulated. I just did all my energy on the research and now it's, I can't even speak anymore.

Kristine: No, it was great. I really

appreciate that.

Will & Karen: Sure. No, absolutely. It was, it's fun. is there anybody that this is not good for?

Kristine: Oh, goodness. I can't imagine. You know, I really and, you know, I've had a case where a pretty extreme case where I was working with a patient and [00:31:00] I say patient because I was kind of, you know, tagging in with the position. And, a lot of things had come up around her heart area.

And so I was really concerned like, wow, what's going on is she having a heart issue during the session. And so. Then I, I saw, you know, something pretty intense, like suicide. And so you don't want to mess around with something like that. So I, I delicately kind of, you know, approached it and said, hey, I'm seeing a lot of like stress in your heart area.

Are you taking what you're supposed to be taking for your heart? And she's like, no. I go, because it looks like you're self sabotaging and a lot's been coming up. I said, have you been having thoughts about, you know, wanting to leave this planet, leave this realm, leave, you know, 3D and she's like, yes. And she started to cry.

And so then I, I asked her, I said do you want that? Is that what you're looking to do? Are you looking to shift up and out or do you want to be here? She's like, no, I want to be here. And I said, okay, so we're going to [00:32:00] clear the self sabotage. We're going to clear what's going on in the heart.

We're going to clear all that stuff. And I said, but then I'm going to want to talk to your doctor to make sure that she connects with you, to make sure that you're on the right You know supplements or medication whatever she thinks you need and you have to promise me That you will take her call and that you will come into the office, right?

So it was kind of like this tag team thing and the very next day I got You know Like actually later that day. I got a text from both the physician and the patient thanking me They had talked they're together and you know, she's still with us and doing much better, but it was just You know, sometimes you're like, wow, you know, you don't think about the power of the method or what you're actually doing for people at the time.

So when I tell you, when you ask the question, can something permanently shift? Sure. But again, we have this free will, right? So when you ask me, is it not for anybody? I don't know. I've not run into anybody who hasn't benefited from it. I used [00:33:00] it as part of my coaching and leadership practice before choosing to go back inside.

Cause one of my clients started using my methods on me and saying, you know, you're going to work for me full time someday. Um, And so that's how I wound up working in the nutraceutical company, but it's been a match made in heaven because I'm allowed to be all of me. So I do soul intelligence sessions, you know, at our conferences, I'm, you know, I talk both about what I do for soul intelligence, as well as for nutritional frontiers, which is the nutraceutical brand.

And absolutely love how everything works together and our mission is the same to make the world healthy, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and energetically.

Will & Karen: I like that mission a lot. And you said you have an, the evergreen course on your website that people can, can sign up for. Is that if they want to use the method on themselves or is that if they want to help other people with the method?

Kristine: The answer is yes.

Will & Karen: Oh,

Kristine: When you start to learn, you pretty [00:34:00] much doing it on yourself, and then you have to work up to be able to do it on other people and go through a certification, you know, practicum so that I know, you know what you're doing. I have a senior coach who also can check in and tap in to make sure that you, you're comfortable moving energy.

And there's, there's some things to it, right? You don't, you don't want to retain that. You want to shift it up and out for that person, I'm sure you guys have used the term empath or being empathic where you feel, right? My first sense is clairsentient. So I, I'm definitely empathic.

And so I have to be very careful about, am I allowing that energy to successfully move through me or am I holding it? And that's also a reason for me going in and checking on a weekly basis, you know, just making sure that I'm clear before I do a session for anyone.

Will & Karen: Gotcha. So Karen, this is not for you because you're too much of an empath. might be for me.

Kristine: It actually could be if you are empathic. I do think it helps. I mean, just being, you know, intuitive and empathic it helps you be in tune, but it is something [00:35:00] you have to, you have to just be aware of. You

Will & Karen: Sure.

And do you have to have any sort of, I don't know, like psychic abilities or energetic abilities prior to, taking the course?

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

Will: And now back to the show.

Will & Karen: do you have to have any sort of, I don't know, like psychic abilities or energetic abilities prior to, taking the course? one of the things, the first things that I teach people is how to work with a pendulum. You know, it's just a way for the energy to come through you. And so you can discern what's on the charts and what needs to shift. So once you get. Comfortable trusting your higher self or your intuition. Then no, it's not a problem.

Kristine: Um, And usually people pick that up right away, but that's like in, in the very beginning, that's one of the first things that you learn.

Will & Karen: Christine, Karen does not need any more reason to buy any more pendulums.

Kristine: Does she have

a lot of [00:36:00] cool ones?

Will & Karen: She is a pendulum junkie. And I'm like, my name is Karen and I'm a pendulum aholic.

Kristine: Well, one of the things I do recommend is that you get a pendulum that's this may not be, you may be annoyed with me for saying this, but it can't be longer than a pen. And the reason why you don't want to have that long of a change, cause you may holding it over a book. And so your arm's going to get really tired if it's really long.

So you might have to get a few short, you know, maybe you don't need new ones. I don't know.

But. Okay. Bye.

Will & Karen: Christine, I said not to. We're going to be there Friday. No more. For the gift stories. Okay. Well,

Kristine: But that would

Will & Karen: a lot.

Kristine: of the, tips I would give you.

Will & Karen: Well, I wanted to hear about your book because you just released a couple weeks ago. Congratulations. Yeah, it's a huge accomplishment. What is the name of the book and what is it about?

Kristine: It's called healing through soul intelligence. And it is all about the method. How I came about Having the method kind of downloaded to me my experience shifting from the corporate world to coming out of the spiritual closet sharing case [00:37:00] studies of a lot of the different people that I've helped over the years and it's just a really cool tool.

I give journal prompts in it as well. So at the end of each chapter, whatever I've shared, you get to have an experience as well. And my audio book I recorded out in LA just about a week ago in a cool Grammy award winning studio was like such an experience I know. Um, And it's going to be available on Audible.

Actually it should be um, by the time this episode airs, by the end of the week.

Will & Karen: Very cool. curious. You're in the recording studio, do you read, like, it takes me a couple of weeks to read a book. You're sitting there, like, standing on your feet in front of a microphone for days on end, weeks reading your book.

Kristine: Well, I did it I think the first read through was over a couple of days in about eight hours. And then we had some, you know, what they call I don't know, what is it? Uptakes or something, basically edits, right? You know, we had to go back in and change. Yeah, there you go. That's the word. See? Perfect.

Um, And, you [00:38:00] know, just to kind of clean it up. So I did it. They told me in a pretty unusual amount of time, like I was, I was able to get it done and basically over a weekend you know, about a three day period. And they were like, what, how did you do that? They're like, most authors like have to come back and they don't read their stuff very well.

They're like, you must speak in front of a lot of people. I go, yeah, I tend to do that on a regular basis. So it was easy.

Will & Karen: I listen to a lot of podcasts in double speed, so did you maybe speak double speed? That's

Kristine: So I did have to re, you know, repronounce some words. That was mostly, do you know the one that I had to record the most? The end. I'm like, how many ways can you actually say the end? Like, you know, like it was so bizarre.

Will & Karen: funny. Now since you're from New York, question, how do you say the first day of the weekend?

Kristine: The first day of The

weekend.

Will & Karen: The day after Friday. What's the day after Friday? How do you say that?

Kristine: Oh, Saturday.

Will & Karen: Yes, that's exactly how you [00:39:00] say it. Thank you. I just say it sounds. She has given me so much grief about the way I say Saturday because it's Saturday.

It's Saturday. Just it's not, you know, anyway. Yes, I'm from the same area as you are. So we speak the

Kristine: are you, where are you from originally?

Will & Karen: I'm actually raised in Connecticut, which is about Fairfield County. It's about an hour away from the city.

Kristine: Okay. Weston, Westport, Fairfield, Norwalk.

Where?

Will & Karen: A little town called Richfield

Kristine: Oh,

Will & Karen: a lot,

spent a lot of time in Westport and Wilton actually, and then I lived in Old Greenwich for a while as well.

Kristine: Oh, wow. Okay. Well, I, you know, I was originally from New York, but then we did the Long Island and then the Connecticut tour and then

Will & Karen: heard the Long Island.

Kristine: yeah, you know, and then the, the Poconos, but I had a little stint in Connecticut and Weston.

So

yeah, New York. brother's still

Will & Karen: in in Bethel in Newtown,

Kristine: Oh goodness, and they're Cobb's Mill

Inn, if that rings

Will & Karen: I know

Kristine: I thought you might!

Will & Karen: we went to there for the, like the, the dinner before the prom is what, that was the [00:40:00] big place to go.

Kristine: There you go! There you go, yeah. So that was probably the closest little, little haunt. I used to go, like, in their candy store as a kid and go grab stuff. So, anyway,

isn't that No kidding!

Will & Karen: Awesome.

Kristine: really been fun you know, chatting with

both of you.

Will & Karen: Likewise. Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing of this. We definitely have to try it. I'm really

Kristine: love that!

Will & Karen: absolutely great. Hopefully you can do it. And yes, we'll send you the link to the website in the description.

Kristine: I would absolutely love that. That would be amazing. And then, you know, depending on what comes up, you can decide whether you want to share it with the world.

Will & Karen: or you can share it on Instagram, but like the link is in I do. that is a point. I do allow people to record the session. Typically I do them on zoom and I allowed them to record it and retain it. So if they want to listen, not that you need to, but some people like that because it puts them in a meditative state. [00:41:00] And some people like to write, right? And I don't want someone distracted during a session.

Kristine: I want them to just, you know, allow and receive and let it go. So if they want to go back and listen or have questions later, I'm, I'm always happy to ask. Yeah, of course. Yeah, sure. It is soul intelligence method. com.

Will & Karen: Perfect. All you need to do if you don't have a pen right now is go to skepticmanposition. com. You have been there many times. Go to her episode page. You'll see the link directly in our show notes there. So you can't miss it. Oh my gosh, Christine, this has been wonderful. I really look forward to our session so that I can finally release the fourth grade stuff I said about, but uh, talk very, very soon.

I'm sure. It

Kristine: I love it. Well, thank you both. It was really

fun.

Will & Karen: too. Thank you.

Will: And a huge thank you to you. We hope you've enjoyed this conversation as much as we have. That's all for now, but we'll see you on the next episode of The Skeptic [00:42:00] Metaphysician. Until then, take care.