How to Use Your Creativity to Connect with Spirit

Will: [00:00:00] Karen, do you see your creativity as a spiritual practice? No,

Karen: I never thought

Will: about it that way. Baha, I see that. well, they do say that all of our creative endeavors do stem from our soul.

Right? So it makes sense. That does make sense. The sad thing is how few people actually see it as a spiritual practice. And in the opposite how few people actually tap into their spirituality to help them develop their creativity. Hmm. And they even neglect to use their creative outlets to help them connect even closer.

Well today shows with the help of an absolute expert, we're gonna help you to do just that. By the time the show is done, you know exactly how to jumpstart your creativity in your spiritual practices.

Karen: Does this mean you'll be a better artist? No . I was hoping for you.

Will: No, I can't draw a straight line.

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Will: So I wanted to share a story with you that when I first heard it meant a lot to me. Hopefully it'll resonate with you Once upon a time, a psychology professor walked around on stage while teaching stress management principles to an auditorium filled with student. As she raised a glass of water, everyone expected they'd be asked the typical glass half empty, glass, half full question and things like that. Instead, with a smile on her face.

A professor asked, how heavy is this glass of water [00:02:00] I'm holding? Well, students shouted out answers, ranging from eight ounces to a couple of pounds to you name it. Well, she replied, from my perspective, the absolute weight of this glass doesn't really matter. It all depends on how long I hold. If I hold it for a minute or two, it's pretty light.

If I hold it for an hour straight, well it's weight might make my arm ache a little. Now if I hold it for a day, my arm will likely cramp up and feel completely numb and paralyzed, forcing me to drop the glass to the floor in each.

The weight of the glass doesn't change, but the longer I hold it, the heavier it feels to me. Well, as a class shook her heads in agreement, she continued. Your stresses and worries in life are very much like this glass of water. Think about them for a while and nothing happens. Think about them a bit longer, and you begin to ache a little bit.

Now you think about them all day. And [00:03:00] you'll feel completely numb and paralyzed, totally incapable of doing anything until you drop them. Now, the moral of this story is that it's important to remember to let go of your stresses and worries no matter what happens during your day as early in the evening as you can.

Put all your burdens down, let them go. Don't carry them through the night and into the next day with you. If you still feel the weight of yesterday's. It's a strong sign that maybe it's time to put the glass down.

Karen: hoping for you.

Will: No, I can't draw a straight line. Welcome to the Skeptic Meta Physicians. I'm Will. And I'm Karen. And today we have the absolute pleasure of welcoming Molly Mandel to the show. She's the founder of Wild Hearts Rise Up. It's a gathering of people to help provide clear, practical steps to help you realize any vision you have for yourself in life.

She's also the. Of both the tactical magic and reveal the Game of Life podcasts and a best selling [00:04:00] author. Welcome to the show, Molly.

Molly: Hi. Thanks for having me.

Will: We are excited to talk to you because we were on your show already and we had a great conversation, but this is a topic we haven't tapped into yet. So, we are expecting you no pressure to give us all the answers, , every last one, all of them.

Molly: I'm someone who has all the answers, so

Will: I that, that's what I heard about you. We look very wise. You do look very wise,

Molly: you.

Will: All right, so well then let's just set the table. How do you feel creativity works as a spiritual practice?

Molly: I think that it's really creativity when it's the most fun, when it's the most productive, when it's the most, um, magical is often coming from a place that's not of our ego, that's not of ourselves, that's not of rational, logical, normal reality. And I think when we start to acknowledge that and we start to allow it to be a flow state, a flow state that's coming from consciousness perhaps [00:05:00] beyond what we know as physical and real and rational, that it has a capacity to expand and to get even more like potent and powerful.

And, um, yeah, it has the ability to change lives in that.

Will: Okay, so we talked right before we start recording about how the universe sometimes takes us in weird and wacky directions, right? Here's our first monkey wrench. I'm about to ask you. Oh, boy. Yeah. . One of my favorite books everyone knows is Listen to the show is Conversations With God, and that was a complete free flow, right?

Neil Donald Wall shot down and frustrated with his life and said, God, why are you doing this to me? And asking all these questions, and all of a sudden God started answering back in your. The way you just described it, that would be his creative part of himself coming out and creating or crafting this story. But,

Molly: God

Will: or God, the question is, right, how, how do you, how could you tell the difference between your own creativity, from your soul and from a divine, like people who channel beings and things like that?

Molly: I [00:06:00] don't think that it's really important to know a differe. I think that when you're in that state, there's a feeling to it. There's a feeling of this thing coming to life, this thing coming through you more than from you, and that's a pleasurable sensation. Anybody who's a writer by choice has that feeling when they write.

Anybody who loves to paint has that feeling when they paint. It doesn't matter at all where it's coming from. It's just a gift to be the conduit, the channel, the vessel for that kind of stuff to come through you and out into the physical world. It's divine and it's enlightening and I don't think it matters at all who or what it's coming from.

Will: That's the perfect answer. In fact, a lot of people will say it was divine inspiration, right? So, um, like the creativity that came out, it just, it just flowed through me. Uh, the piece of artwork that I designed here, that I hung on my, on my wall, was not me. It was someone.

Going through me and, manipulating the, the

Karen: paintbrush. So then would you, in your estimation, think that's how the Bible was written?

Molly: Uh, it could be, could be. I think that the way [00:07:00] it's, uh, translated and, uh, made it through hundreds of years of, you know, societies and people, and a lot of people who are in power and want things to orient towards their power, uh, I think it could have gotten tainted along the way, but it could be that that was channeled information that came through at the beginning and it's been sort of twisted and messed with since.

Karen: I was thinking about your conversations with God. I mean, it could have been originally a similar situation because I always thought, really, they're really inspired. They just wrote this stuff down. Right. That just made me think about it. Yeah.

Will: I just wanna point out how wonderfully Molly just skirted around that.

land mind, talking about, uh, religion and, uh, the Bible.

Molly: Everybody gets to believe in anything they wanna believe in. As I say, believe in whatever makes you feel good and makes you feel like your life is more meaningful and fulfilled. So the conversations with God, people who don't resonate with the word God or feel some like aversion to the kind of dogma attached to the word God, might not [00:08:00] feel that that's compelling, but if you think of it as wisdom coming from, Beyond physical reality, beyond the ego of the human mind.

I think there's a lot of that, and I think that's where a lot of magical art comes from. A lot of books come from is from this ethereal place where there's more stories, there's more information, there's more wisdom to come through us than our ego mind can actually come up with. And I've noticed this for myself a lot in my journaling.

That when I'm journaling, I ask a question or I ask for guidance, or I ask for wisdom and you know, through something that I can't see beyond because I'm stuck in it or it's emotional or whatever. And often my journaling will switch from first person to second person. Suddenly there's you, instead of me being written on the page.

And that feels like. Channeled message. I mean, you guys have had plenty of people on the show who are channels and who are uh, doing that work in the [00:09:00] world, and it's not that far out when you actually think about it. It's just some higher consciousness part of you or something that you're connected to that's willing to show up and give you answers or support you and give you more guidance anytime you ask for it.

And so the fun part is figuring out what's a way for that to come through for you If you don't feel like a writer, you don't like journaling, maybe meditation, maybe drawing. Maybe something like a moving meditation. Some people are like dancers who feel just compelled to move their bodies to process things, and that is not a conscious, intentional thing that we're doing most of the time.

Will: Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's like when I get the overwhelming urge to do modern dance, for example,

Karen: that's . I was waiting for it. I'm like, here we go. . .

Will: Yeah. I hung up my flamenco shoes. But modern dance man, I'm all about

Molly: It's easier.

Karen: you can do whatever you want. Don't even have to have rhythm.

Molly: Preform

Will: Yep. Yep. That makes it easy.

Yep.

Karen: how do you [00:10:00] know, or how do you differentiate if it's, uh, if you're channeling or if it's just your deep subconscious

Molly: again, I don't think that it really matters. If it's something valuable to you, if it's an idea or an insight that you couldn't come up with on your own, then call it whatever you wanna call it. Does it feel good to listen to it? Does it feel like something you didn't come up with on your own? Then great.

Use that information. I mean, still we have free will and choice. We can still choose to stay with the partner who's wrong for us, or choose to stay at the job that we hate. We can do that because the paycheck is good or, you know, they're nice to us sometimes. But when that wisdom comes through, it's like more awareness, it's more information.

It's more for you to, um, make choice from

Karen: Mm-hmm. . And there's something so healing about, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but there's something so healing about sitting down and painting, or even like when I'm cooking or just blending the colors, the smells, whatever it is, it's just a very, it's like, it, it kind of brings, at least for me, it brings me like a sense of calm.

Will: [00:11:00] Yeah. It just brings stress to me. Oh. How much of the measurement, how many cup, how many teaspoons,

Molly: Yeah.

Will: That doesn't work for me. Okay, but you edit.

Karen: That's true. Yes. And that would, oh my God. I would die if I had to.

Molly: Yeah, so everybody has a different thing that feels like that meditative flow state for them, and I think it's important to keep trying things and keep having hobbies or exploring, especially those of us who think we are grown up and we're adults and we have like, we know what we do. We know what we like, like try something new.

See what else might light you up, might turn you on. The world we live in right now is really amazingly situated for that new hobby. Hobby to become a new profession or a career or a business. And it's never been so easy to have like a silly craft project go viral and become a serious income. Um, yeah, it's worth exploring more so than just that it could make you money.

It could light you up in a way that you didn't have that [00:12:00] vitality in your life in another way before then.

Will: and we're definitely gonna touch on deeper a little bit later, because you help people do just that, and we'll talk about that in a second. But do you feel that? People block themselves from accessing their creativity. Is there a way to get beyond that?

Molly: Absolutely. I think a lot of us have those stories. Like I said, I'm too old to do this. That's just one. Um, I'm not creative is a lie. A lot of people tell themselves, I'm, I'm not

Will: us out like that. Lie

Karen: calling us.

Molly: Yeah, but then you like editing and that's such a creative process to find the nuggets and the golden like a long recording that that is a creative process.

So I mean, step one is acknowledging that those beliefs really usually aren't absolutely true. Um, and then looking for where are you already creative in your life? What actually have you done before that's turned you on? Or what did you see someone doing that you're like, dang, I'd like to try that. Like those wine and paint parties.

A bunch of people sit [00:13:00] together and get drunk and all paint the same thing. That's an easy avenue to get into something that you, you know, normally wouldn't go and try on your own. Like buying a set of paints in a canvas and not knowing where the heck to begin.

Will: The, the problem is since I can't draw a straight line, all I end up doing is getting drunk.

Molly: I mean, that's what rulers are made for. If you need to draw a straight line. I use rulers all the time in my art . Um, but yeah, I think the main thing is. The people who are listening to this that might feel like they wanna get creative, but they don't know where to start, look around. See what kinds of things you're digesting and lit up by.

What kinds of content are you, um, is turning you on or is peaking your interest? And what version of that might you wanna experiment with? And it could be easier to do it with a friend, it could be easier to do it with somebody you know who's already doing. Just to get in their world. Like this evening, actually, I'm going over to a friend's house cuz I just downloaded, uh, illustrator [00:14:00] and I have a little bit of background in Photoshop, but Illustrator is like a whole nother animal and I just don't even, I know I have ideas of things I wanna make, but I just don't even know the tools in there to use.

So we're gonna go have a little art party tonight and he is gonna teach me how to use this tool. So that I can make more stuff. And it felt like a barrier. I need a graphic designer to do these things for my business, but really I could just take a few hours and learn this software and then I'd be able to create anything I want at the drop of a hat.

So, um, yeah, that one was tapping me on the shoulder for a while before I was finally like, okay, I'll try it. I know I'm smart enough to do it. I know I can find time to do it if I have the skill set. So let me do what it takes to find the skill set.

Karen: So we talked a little bit about, um, you know, writing or journaling or writing a book and you're getting these downloads or maybe channeling. Have you ever created a piece of art and. Gotten the message. Not while you're doing it, how I just smacked myself in the head. .

Will: No, we, we discouraged that

Karen: on the show, Karen.

No, not while you're doing it, but you finish and then you [00:15:00] look at it and you're like, oh my gosh. There's this message in the artwork that you didn't even realize you were getting like a reverse

Will: speech.

Molly: Yeah, absolutely. Actually the first book that I wrote, I, before I started my business, I was, um, a wandering vagabond nomad. I'm still a nomad, but I was more aimless back then. And the only thing I was doing that felt purposeful to me was writing a novel. And so I was wandering around the world for like five or six years.

I mean, for many, many years of my life I've been wandering for five or six years. I was working on this novel and the most amazing thing was happening. I wasn't following an outline. I wasn't really sure where the story was going. It, it started to flesh itself out, not linearly at all, like a chapter over here.

Not sure how this chapter is gonna get there and unfinished pieces that would then get finished somehow really organically. And that was my first experience of like, wow, there's something else happening here. I think this is my story. I think I'm coming up with the characters. I think I'm making the whole story. But then things would [00:16:00] solve themselves. Problems in the story or unfinished, loose ends would tie themselves without me planning it or controlling it. And that was the most magical experience to recognize, oh, this is actually already a fully formed thing somewhere. And I'm just finding a way to bring it down here in whatever pieces or chunks I can, and it, it finishes itself.

It's almost like something else is doing it, which is really, really,

Will: You mentioned being a vaon, kind of t tongue in cheek, but you do, you travel the world full time, right? You've gotten a little sprinter van as a, as a tiny home and you run your business out that van. So some people feel that their environments actually restrict their creativity. The fact that you travel the world full-time in your tiny home sprinter van, has that helped you to access levels of creativity that you didn't necessarily have access to before.

Molly: yes and no. I will say that living in a van, uh, [00:17:00] building the van built a lot of confidence in me and that I can make things in my head. Real like this, there's gonna be a bench situation here with a desk and I don't know how the heck that's gonna happen, but I think about it long enough and boom, there's a bench and a desk in front of it.

Um, so the idea and the willingness to follow through with it and figure it out and not be sure how it's gonna work, but then keep trying and keep thinking on it until some part of you understands it and then you can make it happen. That has been fed a lot by my nomadic lifestyle, by the building of the.

The house inside the van and um, that there's also a part of me that really wants more space to create, like a big barn, to make giant things, a tree house on some land. Like there are bigger projects that I wanna create that can't be done in the van, but yes. Two things happen. One, when I've been like visiting someone for a few weeks, or I feel like it's time to get back on the road.

As soon as I get back on the road, or as soon as my [00:18:00] feet get into an airport, to be honest, I get a huge wave of inspiration, new projects, ideas, things I wanna work on, and then it's like, oh crap. I need to stop traveling and moving for a minute so I can actually focus on these things and give them my time and attention.

And the opposite is also true. Sometimes I'm on the road and I'm having that feeling of like, geez, I'm driving a lot. But man, I really wanna work on that idea. Like this new illustrator project. I really just wanna sit for a few days and mess with this new technology to see what I can create. And I need to stay put for some, some amount of time to focus on that thing, to write that book, to finish that painting, to build that thing.

Um, so both are true for me. When I start to feel stagnancy, if I'm staying put, I know it's time to get moving again. When I start to feel like there's too much I wanna work on and I'm moving too much, then I need to stay put. So I do a pretty good job of honoring that and pausing my life or kickstarting my life when I feel that like sense of, I don't wanna say cages, but like more is [00:19:00] coming.

I need to, I need to step it up in some way.

Will: So it's really just listening to your soul, your heart tell you which direction, get going or stay put, kind of

Molly: Yeah, and it's a gift to have that option because a lot of people are living in a house and so you don't have the option of a new scenery, but taking a walk in the park or driving yourself to the nearest body of water, sitting with yourself for a moment, like having breaks in your monotony and creating those breaks in your monotony yourself is a really important part of bringing that creative flow back to you.

Will: Right now I'm looking at you now. You're not in your van now. Right.

Molly: No, I'm visiting my, my mom, where I have a cute office background.

Will: Cause I was gonna say, wow, that's an incredible job of designing your van. It doesn't look like a van at all. No, it does not. That was impressed.

Molly: of this wall and using it as a background when I'm in the van,

Will: There you go. That's a

Karen: good idea. Great screen. Yeah.

Molly: Yeah.

Karen: So when you are working with people and you're trying to help them, I don't know, open up their minds and let that creativity flow, let [00:20:00] the, those messages come through.

What are some of the biggest, or I guess most common blockages that, that people have?

Molly: Yeah, I can't, I'm not good enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm, uh, too old for this. I don't have enough time for this. I, uh, people will judge me for it. People will be mad if I get too creative and big and amazing. If I shine my light too bright, they'll be upset. Um, it, what if I try and I fail? Then I'll be a failure and I'll be judging myself.

Or other people will see me fail and they'll judge me. Um, what if I make it and it's just not good enough? Then I might as well just not try. I'm not quite clear yet what it is. So how do I move forward if I don't know what it is yet? The, those are the most common ones that come up and I will say I help people.

Unbridle their creativity through a pretty specific niche and lens. I mostly work with coaches, holistic practitioners, entrepreneurs who wanna get over that creative block to developing content, showing up on social media, broadcasting their [00:21:00] message and building their business beyond one-on-one services to groups and programs and stuff like that.

But the same sort of methodology is true for anyone wanting to bring more creativity and flow into their.

Karen: And do you think these are all, like, these messages, you know, I'm not good enough, it's, it's gonna suck, or whatever. Do you think those are all brought on on by ourselves or do you think they're just reactions from other people or

Molly: That's a really good question.

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Karen: do you think these are all, like, these messages, you know, I'm not good enough, it's, it's gonna suck, or whatever. Do you think those are all brought on on by ourselves or do you think they're just reactions from other people or

Molly: That's a really good question. I think most of our false beliefs or limitations are absorbed from society and from our upbringing. So if you had a, a parent who it could go both ways. You have a parent who's really not. Following their purpose and it feels like, okay, that's how to stay safe in the world.

That's how to be, I just kind of keep in my lane and I stay in focus and don't dream too much because if you dream too much, then you'll get outside of that lane. Or you have a, I mean, my mom is a brilliant creator and has a, a wild career as a writer that. Then I was afraid of not being as good as that if I went and tried a creative life.

And so it can hit you either direction, either be like them and stay small, or I don't wanna be like them and so I'll stay small cuz she was [00:24:00] so big. Um, that, that upbringing has a lot to do with where we collect those. It could be that society has told you, you know, get a day job, think realistically, plan for the future.

Pay that 401k as long as possible, like whatever the story is, we absorb it either from society or from the people around us. It could be your parents, it could be your siblings. It could be an uncle who just was weird about stuff. You know that it can come from anywhere and often it stays with us for a reason.

Usually we think we're safer with that belief, and so we keep it around. It's trying to keep us from getting hurt or getting embarrassed or getting, uh, traumatized in some way. And it's important to take a look at that belief and say, you know, who am I when I believe that thought? I'm smaller, I'm more stuck.

I'm hesitating, I'm unsure of myself. It, it doesn't feel good. And who would I be without that thought? That's questions. The work by Byron Katie and analyzing those [00:25:00] beliefs and saying, would I like to keep them? And consciously choosing whether you're gonna keep that thought around or not and then making it a practice.

Anytime that kind of thought comes up, you look at it. Is that true for me right now? Is there a part of me that needs something so that I feel safer as I go big and blast beyond that limitation? How can I nurture myself in that way? What kind of support do I need right now? Cuz I'm going big and I don't care what voice in my said head tells me not to.

Karen: And I guess it is easier to kind of stay small like that. You know, you don't have to take a risk, you don't have to put yourself out there or, you know, get to the edge of your comfort zone or try something new, you know, or potentially fail. So, yeah, I can see why a lot of people just kind of stay in that little, you know, little

Molly: I would say it's more comfortable, but it's not easier because if there's a part of you bursting to get set free, it's uncomfortable to keep it hidden and to keep it contained.

Will: And that's where the spirituality aspect of this comes in, because we've all talked about the fact that, awakening to spirituality starts on the edges of your comfort zone. And a lot of [00:26:00] people, aren't ready to do that, one way or the other. Now, you talked about certain specific.

Tools that you use to help healing practitioners and coaches and things like that. Now, we're not that, right? We help get the message out for people that are practitioners and healers and things like that. But if I were, and I said to you, my problem is I lit, I have no time to write my book. Is there a way to get around that other than to sacrifice something else?

Molly: Yeah. Well, I mean, the question I would first ask is, is now the time? Is now the time for this book, or is there a part of you that knows that it's not quite time yet? If now is the time for this book and you're still not willing to make time for it, then that's a deeper question. What are you afraid of?

Why isn't this book. Priority for you right now. What else could possibly be more important than this thing that's begging to be born through you getting your time and attention right now?

So that's

Karen: you know if it's the time or not?

Will: That's Molly's there. , Molly's there to tell you [00:27:00] there's true

Molly: it's an awareness. I know. I don't, I don't impose that. It's, it's time.

You better write that book right now.

Karen: I

Will: just saying that, I mean was hop that you would, Molly I

Molly: I, I can do that if you want that. But no, I would never force, I've had people hire me to do a project and after a few sessions, we realize they need to focus on their something else first so that that can be born after. And so we drop what we're doing and change gears to work on that, and sometimes even pause our sessions while they focus on the other thing first.

And I give total permission for that because there's. I mean, there are a few things as painful as trying to squeeze this thing out of you when it's not done gestating yet. It's a lot like birthing a child. Not that I've birthed a child, but there's a gestation period, there's a divine birth date. There's some tension around letting it go and having it be born for sure, and often a moment where you wanna stop and quit and say it's not happening, and then you let it out into the world and [00:28:00] it gets to have a life of its own.

 I wanna go back to your question a little bit because there are a set of tools that I use that are really powerful for clearing energy, for making choices, and for stepping into more of the power where I can do this, I'm choosing to do this. I'd like to create this, and like how much magic am I willing to funnel through me now?

And the set of tools that I use is called Access Consciousness. And it's like a whole school of thought, which I'm shocked how few people have heard of it. Although it is in 150 or more countries now around the world, it's kind of like law of attraction, but on steroids. Like it's very, I've used so many different modalities in my life and there's nothing that has.

Changed my reality more dramatically and quickly than the tools of access consciousness. And so there's kind of two ways it works. One is verbal processing. So asking questions, clearing the energy of something that you're aware of. Now, something that comes up. So when I ask the question, is it time? To let your book be born.

Now there's probably an energy that comes up around [00:29:00] it, like, uh, there's some tension, there's some fear, there's some excitement, there's some energy around it, and we can use the access consciousness clearing statement to sort of clear all that energetic muck out of the way. And then you get a clearer answer or you have more awareness about how to move forward.

And that access consciousness clearing statement sounds like gobbledygook. It's basically short speak for like dozens of other questions, but it goes right, wrong, good, bad. Pod pop, all nine, shorts, boys, po adss, and beyonds. And that stands for like so many different questions.

Karen: I say, we just heard that I, we just had a session with uh, hypnotherapist, and so I underwent hypnosis and at the very end, that was the statement that she,

Will: Right. So, I mean, that sounds amazing. And I'll be the first to admit, I've never heard of it. So.

Molly: Yeah.

Will: Is it like, is this a psychological tool or is it a, is a

Molly: So, yeah, the, there's verbal processing and then there's hands on body processes as well. So usually when somebody is [00:30:00] interested in access consciousness, first off, there's dozens of podcasts, there's dozens of YouTube channels. For anybody who thinks access consciousness sounds, ooh, I might wanna check that out.

1. I heard someone say the clearing statement in a Facebook Live, uh, five or six years ago, and I was like, what the hell was that? I immediately like, she was like, if you wanna know what that is, it's the access Consciousness clearing statement. I googled it and immediate was like, oh my God, this is fascinating.

I'll come back to it. I ran out the door to go to a networking event, walk into the networking event 20 minutes early cuz that's how I roll. The only other woman there. I said, hi, I'm Molly. She said, hi, I'm Barbara. I'm an Access Consciousness facilitator. I was like,

Will: Whoa. What? Yeah.

Molly: 20 minutes of Googling this thing, I met someone who does that for the first time ever.

I was like, okay, I'm listening. Like, that seems like a sign. This is for me. And went just deep, deep down that rabbit hole.

Will: It's like universal, Alexa or Amazon or whatever, right? Where , you're, you're, you're, you're having conversation. All of a sudden Facebook's giving you the ads, you know,

Molly: Yeah, and when you're asking for guidance, you're asking for, [00:31:00] who's my next teacher? Where's my next learning coming from, where it's my next level up? And then boom, boom, boom. It becomes that, that clear. I was like, okay, I'll move in that direction. And I will say I, with the tools of access consciousness, so much has changed in my life.

My ability to receive money, my ability to, um, feel embodied to. Feel connected to my body and know what it needs and give it what it's asking for. Listen to what it's saying to me before it turns into a lot of pain or discomfort. Um, my business has grown so much and the relationship and relationships in my life have changed a lot because of these tools, because I'm in question instead of decision and conclusion, which is like a. Lesson to learn, I think to be curious, to ask questions, not just of the universe, but of yourself and what actually wants to happen. What would create greatest in my life before we just go down what the right road is. And I think that feeds into the creativity conversation a lot too, [00:32:00] which is why when you say, you know, I'm not making time for my book.

Okay. Let's ask some questions about that. Is there a reason you're not making time for your book? Is your book actually wanting to be born right now? Or you just think you should write a book? And that's what people do when they have a podcast. Um, so yeah, it's, it's a very empowering set of tools to know what you know, and to uncover the muck that's in the way and clear it out.

Will: So you help people utilize this tool, then it's not something you use just, just you yourself. You actually have learned about this and you use that in the well helping clients.

Molly: Yeah, so I teach, I'm a certified bars facilitator, so the first class, once you're interested in access and you wanna like go to classes, the first class that you take is a hands on process called the bars, and I've taught that class all over the country. Um, over the years I've taught it as I was on the road, just like, okay, we're doing an access class here.

And, um, I've attended classes all over the [00:33:00] world too. So, um, I don't teach the foundation class, which is one you usually take after the bars, and that's more of the verbal processing. But yeah, I use the clearing statement, I use the tools and questions with my clients all the time and it creates a lot of shift for them as well.

Will: So do you only take on healing practitioners and coaches as clients or can someone like me hire you to help me do that?

Molly: Yeah, I mean, I'd be happy to. Mostly my clients are people who own businesses and who want to grow those businesses in some way. But yeah, I do, I do have clients where they are entrepreneurs, so we're, we have that lens to talk through because everything, usually, for an entrepreneur, yes, we wanna like grow and evolve as a person.

We also want that growth, growth and evolution to impact our businesses and our, our ability to make a difference in the world. And I like talking through that lens. But yeah, some of the sessions I do with my clients, we're not strategizing, we're not writing copy, we're not developing content, we're just looking at the beingness.

And what needs to get outta the way or [00:34:00] shifted, or changed or rearranged so that that beingness can expand.

Will: and so you help people. Changing their relationship with money, attracting clients, really just it's mindset shifting. But you also have specific tools. You help them develop a website, for example, if they need that, or a vehicle else. You, I mean, you are a one stop shop for anyone who's got a business in this space that wants to not only stand something up, but be incredibly successful.

Molly: Yeah. To line up with that message and that mission Yeah.

Will: Oh, that's, uh, yeah, we're gonna have a conversation after this.

Karen: You can you share one of your success stories with us?

just as you know, someone listening, could get an example.

Molly: Absolutely. One of my clients, just in the past year, uh, she's been in business for 15 years. She's led thousands of client sessions and she was feeling a lot of hesitation around, um, leading retreats. She wanted to have retreats on her property because she had built this beautiful space for it, and she was just kind of, Not feeling the [00:35:00] energetic of like, I can own this.

I can move forward this with this. I'm making this happen. This is, this is occurring. But she has all these clients to pull from who would definitely wanna come to her land and have this experience. So we did the two sides of it. Of course, the. Copywriting, what are we gonna say about these retreats? Who's it really for?

How are we gonna figure out how they sign up? How many are actually available? Because you only wanna do one every couple weeks or every weekend, and only in the summer when it's not snowy and cold outside. And so we did the strategy side of that and the development of the idea, and then the energetic alignment part.

And she had her first $10,000 month after that summer last year that we set that all up. She. Filled every weekend that she wanted to fill with retreats. She had people signing up for bigger packages. It was just like this, like clicking into place. We talk about the holographic universe. This is the podcast I had this conversation on.

You talk about the holographic universe, that all potential [00:36:00] realities are happening simultaneously, and if you know about a hologram, holographic film can have multiple. Imprinted on it, and you see the different image by simply shifting the light or shifting the angle of focus or whatever. So you think about, we think it's this long journey to get where we're going in that there's so much to do and so much to create.

What if it's just your reality as a holographic film and you just have to click it a slight angle into place for the stuff you've been asking for to really be here already? And that's what that felt.

Will: Your example is so much better than mine. Cause I use a CD rom so you can tell how old I am. A floppy disc. Yeah, a CD rom where all the possible outcomes are already written on that, on that CD Rom you just, it's like a choose your own adventure kinda

Molly: Change the track. Exactly. Track jumping.

Will: Well, I listen, you are the host of two wonderful podcasts. One is Tactical Magic, the other ones reveal the Game of Life. I listen to them both and I. [00:37:00] One recently, little, somewhat recently. You're talking about the Matrix, right? And you, use a term that I had never heard before and I found fascinating.

Can you tell us what Art Mancy is?

Molly: Artman. Oh yeah. Uh, this is not my modality, but it's so cool. So you think about divination, you think about, you go to a taro reader, they pull cards, they glean meaning from those cards and. Help you figure out how that card relates to your life or your story, or what you're choosing to create or moving towards?

Um, Artman, I can't tell you the name of the person who developed it. Um, I can tell you my friend Karen Olson, um, is the one that I found it through that I tried it with. And it's the idea that you walk into a museum and you do this with an artman guide or facilitator, and in the museum through a little numbering, lettering process, you basically.

Not accidentally, but unknowingly. Choose what piece of art you're going for and that's your [00:38:00] taro card or whatever. Your divination, and then you're blindfolded and you're walked through the museum and stood in front of. They guide you to stand in front of this piece of art that you've accidentally. Chosen, not accidentally, but you know, unknowingly what it is chosen. And you experience the piece of art with a blindfold on sort of sensing what's there, what's in front of you, what does it look like, what does it feel like? What do you seem to know about it or perceive about it before you ever even see it?

And. Then your blindfold is taken off. You get to see it. You've maybe asked a question before you've gone on this journey, and you're trying to relate whatever this random piece of art is, as your taro deck, as your divination. For this question you've asked and gleaned from, and I had. Done this once with my friend Karen and sh, I think it was a San Jose Museum of Modern Art or something.

It was a very abstract thing, but I described what it looked like, where the colors [00:39:00] were, how it kind of was before she took the blindfold off. And so immediately when the blindfold came off, I was like, oh, floored. Totally stunned. Like that was creepy. Magic. I mean, creepy and magical. How awesome.

Will: So you heard it here first. Molly is an art answer.

Molly: A accidental. Yeah, but I think they may have changed the name of that brand. I'm not sure if they're still doing it, but I mean, I think anybody can play that game. And the truth is, anything in your life that feels significant or that you're willing to make, Significant can give you information about you, about what you're desiring, what you're creating, what you're wanting more of, what direction to move in.

Um, I'm a big fan of seeing signs in everything, in all of life, and asking for them anytime I feel like I need them. And noticing, acknowledging when they show up. Like, wow, thanks. That felt like an answer. Like this sign is for you? Yes. Okay. I see the sign

so it can be happening with anything, but I didn't come up with the word artman and it is a very cool process.

Will: [00:40:00] Yeah, it certainly sounds, sounds like when I does, when I heard it, there's so many different facets to you, Molly, we're talking about the stuff that you're doing to helping people with their businesses and things like that. Let's say someone comes to you and says, I think I've got something, but I don't know how to make money out of it.

Can you help someone?

Molly: I can, and I mostly work with people who already have a business.

Will: Right.

Molly: Yeah. And I mostly work with people who have a service based business. People who are seeing clients face to face or on Zoom.

Will: Well, the reason why brought up Arcy and, and all the different, facets of you is. You actually offer, you've got, not only were you a bestselling, are a bestselling author, you've got several books on Amazon, and we'll add direct links to those in our show notes.

But you also have an Oracle deck that you, um, that you offer as well. I mean, there's lots, lots to Molly that we're not gonna have time to dive totally into, but I'm assuming this is all part of your own creative journey that, that these pieces have come out.[00:41:00]

Molly: Yeah, I mean the, the Oracle deck was a passion project that I just wanted to create and it came to life. It took about two years to finally finish it cuz it was one of those things that was like, it doesn't really matter. It's not important. I'll get to it when I get to it. And then I had to like create deadlines to follow through with it cause I wanted it to happen.

But yeah, it's just a way of sharing magic and inspiration and it has that same quality. Most of my work is about, which is why we're talking about creativity today. How do we funnel the idea from the ethereal realm into tangible reality? And what insider inspiration or questions can we ask to make that easier to make it happen, to bring it to life?

Um, and one of my books is called Wild Heart's Rise Up, which is the name of my. My business as well. And that's all about how we go from ideation to actualization. So how an idea becomes manifest, um, with a lot of stories and roundabout ways to getting that point across. But for those people who are out there and who maybe want to [00:42:00] get more inspiration or insight from me, but they don't fall into that business category.

I do also have a course that's using magical tools like this and spirituality to look at our relationship to money. And so there's a course called Peace with Money. There's a fun quiz about how to find your money, mindset, flavor, and get a special recipe about that flavor. Um, so that's applicable too.

Absolutely. Anyone who's feeling like they wanna radically evolve their relationship to their finances.

Will: And you do offer a lot of free stuff on your site, like quizzes and Toro readings and things like that. And we're gonna add a direct link to your website on our show notes because you do offer a lot. it's called, um,

Molly: That's not my biggest problem.

Will: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's a problem. I say it's not a bad problem to have another thing know, I can imagine that sometimes it's like, well, what the hell does this fit in, in all of this?

Right? That's the Rubik's cube of it all. Might be the most difficult part of it, but your website is Wild Hearts rise up. Dot com and we're gonna add that to our [00:43:00] show notes. So if you're listening to this on the radio, all you need to go to skeptic meta physician.com and check out her episode page.

You will see all the links directly lead in there, easy for you to connect directly with Molly. Molly, we've learned so much from you today. I, it's. I knew that our conversation was gonna go really fast. I didn't realize how fast I know it would

Karen: go. It just blew by.

Will: Yeah. But we really appreciate you taking the time to share your expertise with us, and I urge everyone to reach out to Molly, hit up our links in our show notes because we're going to, connect you with someone that's gonna help you a lot if you're in this space.

So Molly, thanks so much for coming on the show.

Molly: Thank you so much for having me guys.

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