Do YOU Have Angelic Ancestry? Find Out Here!

Will & Karen: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes. We've covered the topic of angels a couple times before. We have. But what if I told you that you have ancient angelic roots that you've never, ever even tapped into? I like how that sounds. Or that even unlocking them could bring you closer to the truth.

to true happiness, freedom, and even dare I say healing powers. Ooh, I like that even better. Yeah, but here's one thing. Oh, that was a rub. I know, but it's a good rub because we all already know. Like a back rub. Except not. Oh. we all already know that you are literally an angel walking on this planet, right?

But when it comes to these particular roots, it's actually not just you, Karen. It's everyone. See, our guest today is about to blow our, all of our minds, diving into a realm of angels and science and energy mastery. Imagine a Harvard level education in self transformation, but with the sparkle of angel wings. [00:01:00] Plus she's dropping knowledge. It's not just out of this world. It might just be part of our very origins. And who knows by the end of this episode, we might even feel a little bit angelic ourselves. So if you're ready to go way beyond the ordinary and find out what it really means to tap into your arch angelic ancestry, stick around, this is one episode you're going to want to watch every single second of the skeptic metaphysicians.

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Will & Karen: Hey there, I'm Will and I'm Karen. And today we are thrilled to welcome Dr. Alisha Das to the show. See, Dr. Das is an esteemed author, spiritual intuitive, and a highly skilled counselor with over 20. Years of experience in transformative works now with a doctorate in spiritual science dual master's degrees in psychology and a master's in ministerial counseling.

Dr. Das has facilitated more than 300 personal growth seminars, guiding countless individuals towards inner and outer transformation. She's published widely with her article on Byron Katie reaching over 5 [00:04:00] million readers on Huffington Post. And currently Dr. Das is working on her highly anticipated book, Your Archangelic Ancestry, set for release with Hay House in spring of 2025. Join us as we dive deep into her unique insights on personal growth and spiritual awakening.

Dr. Das, thank you so much for being on the show today. Oh,

Dr Das: like I have, two siblings. I do have, I do have a little relationship tip for you though. You shouldn't, you can't say Karen's like everybody else or everybody else is like Karen. She's the same. It's a special angel

Will & Karen: well, no, she is. She is. And she knows that the problem is, however, that in this case, you're talking about all of us having archangelic ancestry, which is a super exciting. She is. An angel. We have angelic roots. That's the difference there.

Dr Das: really, it's a good

Will & Karen: Thank you. You're like, shoot. All right. Well, let's get right into it, Doc.

[00:05:00] How is it possible that we could all have archangelic ancestry? And by the way, that's a really difficult word to say.

Dr Das: You know, and I'm so glad you said that, and please, Alisha, please,

Will & Karen: Okay. Okay.

Dr Das: You know, actually, literally, I just found out today that I, they, the title was Your Archangelic Ancestry, and then I actually did a big poll of my lists and everything and, and Penguin Random House, which bought Hay House.

Did a big poll. We're changing it to your angelic ancestry. They just approved it today. You are finding this out along with me, because can say your archangelic ancestry, except me, because I've been saying it for decades. But everybody, even the CEO of Hay House was like, your archangelic

Will & Karen: You, I can't tell you how many times I practiced it

because no one wants to make sound like a blabbering idiot when you're trying to, when you're talking to some, an esteemed author like you, especially when it comes to the title of your [00:06:00] book.

Dr Das: exactly,

Will & Karen: everything she's accomplished, doesn't matter who you are, you're going to sound like a blabbering.

Well, that's a damn good point, but,

Dr Das: You guys are very cute. I want to adopt you

Will & Karen: uh, appreciate that very much. Yeah. Okay. So how is it possible? I mean, we're just human beings walking around, except for Karen, who's actually an an angel walking here, but me like walking around without, how is it possible that I. could have angelic roots. How does that work?

Dr Das: Well, and, and the book, it, you know, takes several chapters to really put roots under those wings. As I mentioned to you, I come from a family of scientists, as mentioned, we have a disease in our family. Everybody's a physician. Like, it's great. Everybody. Generations back, and I was pre med, and then I went, oh, that's a

Will & Karen: My sympathies.

Dr Das: thank you. I appreciate

Will & Karen: we love our doctors. There's lots of, lots of physicians in our audience. So we absolutely love them.

Dr Das: Love position. So the point being that I am a scientist at heart, right? this is based on decades of, of [00:07:00] experimentation. That did not sound right, but you know, really going in and embedding my techniques. First, of course, with myself, since I was four years old, and then with others over and over and over again to see You know, does this play out?

And I had the privilege of working with a very advanced, spiritually advanced audience. And because I was involved in a large community, people had been for decades on a spiritual path so that this could pass muster with them said something. And so it's kind of like, you know, and here's apologies to the infinite intricacy of the universe, but I'm going to grossly oversimplify the creation story to

Will & Karen: Thank you. Cause the only way I'm going to, I'm going to understand it. So I appreciate that very much.

Dr Das: I think you are being way too humble, but as you, I know you're, you've, you've heard so many times, this human, this human place, see, now I can't talk. You have me all flustered. Um,

Will & Karen: Effect on people, but it's usually because, Oh my God, what am I doing on this show? For God's sakes,

Dr Das: [00:08:00] come up with realm, world, any of that, place. This human place is called a latter day experiment. We are newbies, right?

So, the angelic predated this human creation by eons, right? It's a much older creation. So angels are born in absolute oneness with God. They never forget they're one with God, spirit, the universe, by whatever name you call it. It's all the same. It's love, right? They never forget. And, but they have to evolve to individuation when they're an archangel.

Angels evolve to archangels over, It could be millions of years, but the, because the creation is so ancient, there's a lot of archangels. And then there's a very, very highest here called great archangels, which we may discuss. So humans are born in individuation, right? Free will, right? If I want to lock my baby sister on the head, I can,

Will & Karen: which I do often

Dr Das: right, exactly.

And I can only say that because I am the baby sister. So [00:09:00] I had a baby sister. And then humans, we're born in free will. We evolve to the God consciousness that angels are born in. So we evolve oppositely. And that's just one of all the many ways that angels and humans evolve oppositely. So many different ways angels are in a collective.

We evolve to being aware that we're all one with God, right? We're all one. We evolve to that. we have our roots as angels because that predated the human realm. Now, when the, when the human creation was incepted, it was to speed up evolution. So it was to speed up evolution because for an angel to evolve to an archangel and free choice and autonomy to be as God, freely choosing back into God, was taking a long time.

And so this crazy idea of, of, of humans was, you know, Accepted on into the physical level. Angels don't have physical bodies, right? The, [00:10:00] the, our memory though of the angelic was completely obfuscated or obscured so that we didn't come into this physical level with time and space of which angels don't have, right?

We didn't come here and go, man, this place sucks. It's so hard. Age and had to lug this thing around and they get sick and we had to pay for it. You know, everything with money, which we have to make it say it's right. So we don't, we didn't remember that

It's tough here, you know, and it's sad. A lot of spiritual masters say that souls line up to get on this planet. And we're like, wait, is that just like bad taste? No, it's because we evolve so much faster here because it's so difficult. But now we're in this wondrous time. And I do put roots under it, explaining it astrologically, metaphysically, having to do with moving into the Aquarian age, the ending of the Mayan calendar, even the changing of the yugas, which is a even longer period of time.

So in many different [00:11:00] philosophies, and I myself am half English and a half Indian. So I love to embrace many different paths. Because I am many different paths. So this, we're in this wondrous time where now we're subconsciously and then consciously remembering our angelic roots. It's where we go, I know I'm more than this.

Shouldn't I be able to fly? We're all one. Shouldn't we be able to communicate telepathically? We're starting to open to our angelic roots, to our angelic heritage. And the value of bringing all that present is not to go back in time, but to go beyond time. And to go beyond space.

Will & Karen: if everybody has these incredible angelic roots, you know, there's a lot of chaos going on today. So how would you explain it to people? To someone who's like, you know, I work hard, I take care of my family, I, I volunteer, I do all this charitable stuff. You cannot say that I am equal to that guy over there.

Who's, you Bullying the kids and, and doing whatever. What would you say to [00:12:00] I'm angelic. You're not. Basically. No. Everybody has the roots. I mean, it really does. Everybody. Everybody. Is there a root rot? Does that exist? Ah.

Dr Das: Yes and yes. Well, yes and not necessarily. So everybody. No, most, most of us. Some people are humans who started out as humans and they're still humans and they're probably younger souls. Right? So those are the people who are going around and You know, pillaging and raping and, and, and not worrying about anybody else, et cetera.

That's a young soul. You can kind of recognize that there are people who've had their roots in, you know, the nature kingdom that's actually related to the angelic. So they'd be in the same category as angels, But most people, you know, don't hold me to this percentage, but I would say somewhere between 85 and 90%, 90, 90, 95 percent have at least had a field trip in the angelic, right?

If not most of their lifetimes in the angelic. And you can kind of tell an [00:13:00] old soul who hasn't been on earth that long. They're probably not going to be real grounded. May just kind of feel like they don't get this place. They may feel like a stranger in a strange land. They may have a hard time finding their way.

Really being madly in love with the whole human experience,

Will & Karen: you just described my entire childhood. Well, I was just going to say, so all the Gen Xers when they were teens. I'm going backwards.

Dr Das: and now we get to the 85 to 95%, right?

Will & Karen: Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Dr Das: some people have come very recently from the angelic or the David some people and we're also can put extraterrestrials in there But that's another book. And some people are just like nope. I'm a died in the will human I love human, you know, I love earth and this is kind of all there is and those people probably have you know Some angelic roots, but not a lot But there's no, this is not pejorative.

This is not a higher and lower hierarchy. This is just called, let's all awaken together. But does it describe everybody? Probably not everybody, but

Will & Karen: Okay. I misunderstood. Me [00:14:00] too. let's take it back just a step or two. Is there a way that someone that is pragmatic, right, when we're talking about angels and archangels and grand angels and cherubs and who's pragmatic, who's very much in the scientific world. Angels, it's hard to, like, all you think of is these wings and like, No, that's an excuse.

I mean, you forget, I was going to be an engineer. I was very pragmatic, pragmatic, all of that. But I, you know, it's not, I'm just, I'm, so people who, who find it hard to accept the concept of angelic beings, how can you reassure someone like that person who may or

Dr Das: you're asking for a

Will & Karen: For a friend. Yes. For a friend. How can you assure my friend that, that there is some way of understanding and believing that these beings actually exist?

Dr Das: [00:15:00] no, I love that question. And I, as mentioned, I'm a scientist at heart, you know, I want empirical evidence that this work is working and changing people's lives.

Will & Karen: I'm asking the question because I know that you can answer it.

Dr Das: Yeah. Well, so, but I want to make sure I'm asking, answering the question you're asking, you're asking, where is, what is, what do you say to somebody who's like, how could I have been an angel?

Or are you asking what is an angel and how do I

Will & Karen: A little bit of both, but first and foremost, the ladder, the angel, like the people, like my friend, have a hard time believing that angels can possibly exist.

Dr Das: Absolutely. Well, here's a fascinating statistic. I'm going to nerd out on you for a

Will & Karen: Perfect.

Dr Das: the Associated Press, very, you know, rather secular organization, very objective, and the NORC, University of Chicago, possibly even more scholarly and more objective, did a big poll in the U. S.

to see how many people believe in angels and or have had an angelic encounter [00:16:00] experience. 69%. 69%. That is more people than believe in God,

Will & Karen: Wow. Seriously. Wow.

Dr Das: And that transcends, I mean, that transcends culture, socio economic status, gender, no gender, religion, no religion. Spiritual path, no spiritual path. Angels unite us rather than dividing us.

So we go, well, how can that be? How can an atheist believe in angels? Because everybody, when you get into that quiet space, which we all get into, no matter who we are, right? Sometimes we cultivate it. Most of us who are on the spiritual path do. Sometimes it just comes upon us, often in nature. You know there's something more than this.

And sometimes for people, God, or the numinous, or they have mis they have difficult associations with the word God, or spirit, etc. Right? But that bit of magic, a lot of people [00:17:00] not only relate to that as an angel, but that is actually an angel visiting them in a way that tangibilizes spirit, that bridges the physical with the numinous, right?

Because it's just that little bit of magic and there is personage, there is sentience, there is consciousness with that bit of magic. how do we know angels exist? Prove it to me. Well, I would say you want to play for just a

Will & Karen: Always.

Dr Das: All right, let's play for just a minute. So unless you're driving, please don't if you're driving, but if you are driving, you just, just open your heart.

But if you're not driving, if you just close your eyes for just, well, this will be less than a minute. Just close your eyes for a minute and just be aware that, you know, you have always had a guardian angel with you, somebody that protects you from those near misses. Somebody, in the night when you wake up with all this anxiety about the state of your world or the state of [00:18:00] the world, or something breaks through and says, it's okay, love, it's okay, you're not alone.

So I want you now to be aware, and often they're on your right side, just be aware of what you sense on your right side, because when we call upon them, they come even closer. So calling forward our guardian angel, be aware of just a, just a wisp of love. A sense of, this one knows me better than I know myself, and even though I can't see them like I see something physical, they're there.

So just ask them, just give me a sense of you that I can feel, that I can know,

and they might show you an image. Ask them for one word of a [00:19:00] quality that they'll impart to you this moment. One quality.

And just lastly, I have a very short message for you. Could be, I'm here, or all is well. What is that very short message they have for you?

And take a deep breath in and breathe in their love and all the love of the universe. And as you exhale, that love just amplifies, connecting each of us, present each to listen to this heart to heart. All the seen and unseen, humans and angels, all one, and so be it. It's gonna be

Will & Karen: so I'm, I'm,

I really was asking for a friend. I know my angels, my guardian [00:20:00] spirits are around me. Often, and I've connected with them often, and the minute we started, I mean, I felt them right away.

And, and of course, I'm like, I just, I can't, I had to pull myself out of it a couple times because I, I don't want to be a blubbering idiot

Dr Das: The more you're a blubbering idiot, you give us all permission, because that's who we are. That's your gorgeous heart. I,

Will & Karen: You know, I've got an image to protect.

Dr Das: I understand. I understand. Your cool, coolness is safe with Well, thank you. Thank you. No uh, the, uh, the the word was courage and and what he said to me for sure is you're protected. So, but I've, I've known that so then you're saying that the way that we can know the angels are real is just by the feel by the knowingness of that, that they're there.

The sense that they're there and just the more that we take, I call it a divine pause, right? Just to pause. Like it might be, I know for me, again, I'm type AAA family. Like I'll just be going, going, going, but I had to train [00:21:00] myself. to pause several times. This is early on in my spiritual path to pause several times away a day and just connect to spirit, connect to angels.

I actually did it very specifically with angels and it seconds a day. But if you do that two to five, 10 times a day for 32 days, your life will be completely transformed and you will have no doubt you will be sitting here like me and having people connect with their

Will & Karen: Okay. I believe it. I do. I do too. How did you feel? I felt good. Yeah? Yeah. I think my, my word was love. Of course it was. You want to know my message? Uh Huh. It was like an interesting series of statements. It was I see you, I am you, I exemplify you, and I pronounce you. Pronounce. Yeah, that one was new. I pronounce you. Well, that's, that's it. That was impactful. Yeah. That's quite a message.

Dr Das: I love that. That's beautiful. You know [00:22:00] my spiritual teacher used to say if you're not getting it it's because you're not claiming it. You claim God consciousness. You claim intuition. So I pronounce you perhaps that's you claiming your, and by the way I hope you don't mind me saying this Karen, but it's like I'm just sitting here going You're not even hiding your angelicness.

You're an archangel. You're not just an angel. You really are. You have this magnificent angelic, archangelic presence with you.

Will & Karen: I have seen her wings. I know for a fact. This is, and you're not the only person that has said that. Repeatedly. Repeated guests have actually not just pronounced But they have confirmed it several times. So eventually she'll come around, but all right, so let's set, because there's a hierarchy of angels, right?

You mentioned the angels, then archangels, and then grand angels. And I'm really curious. I've never heard of grand angels. So I just got goosebumps. So what, what makes an angel become an archangel? [00:23:00] And then is there a way for them to become grand angels or are they just? They just are.

Dr Das: I love that question. So it's Angels, you know guardian angels, archangels, great archangels.

I love grand angels, but it's great archangels. It's what I call them. Same thing as grand angels.

Will & Karen: So, but you mentioned someone, also the guardian angels, so that, yeah, that's another version of angels. I

Dr Das: Well guardian angel is an angel. Right. So angels are, are, well, it's a, it's a whole long discussion. It's in my book, but angels are non physical beings in a parallel realm to us. They're not higher or lower. They're just a different creation, but our creations are blending. And I think guardian angels were the first angels that, that God sent in to really blend with humans to, to work with us very one on one and they learn, they protect us.

And they remind us of spirit, but they also learn from us. It's a very beautiful, [00:24:00] mentally beneficial relationship. And archangels, the main difference. So by the way, I believe we all had to have evolved to an archangel to come into physicality, to come into the human level. So yes, in a sense, we're all archangels to have come into the physical level, but then some are, have been much higher archangels, which is.

That's more what I'm referring to with Karen, and that doesn't mean she's necessarily higher or lower than anyone else, it just means that's where she spent a lot of her incarnations and evolved to a very high state in the angelic. That's why she has the milieu, if you will, about

Will & Karen: believe it.

Dr Das: and then great archangels are very rarefied.

So there's septillions of angels, but the big, you know, googolplex is actually a number of angels. There's, there's Many archangels, but perhaps, you know, a few hundred thousand, if not more, perhaps a million. There's, of the great archangels, only about a hundred and fifty, [00:25:00] so very high beings. I actually suggest that you don't work with angels, you work with great archangels, because angels don't have free will.

Archangels do. And great archangels are pretty much one with the will of God. So work with archangels and work with great archangels. The exception being your guardian angel. And the exception being there are angelic groups or, or, or guardian angel groups.

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

And now back to the show.

Will & Karen: when you say angels don't have free will, do they come here with a specific purpose that they have to accomplish?

Dr Das: Yes. Well, guardian angels you know, they have the purpose of serving us as we serve them and their, their purpose is always to serve God. Right. But archangels have free will. And great archangels have free will so they [00:26:00] have free will like humans do angels don't have free Will there are one with the will of god and the will of god is disseminated to them by that convenient archangel above them Saying go thou this way.

We all wish we had that archangel above us saying go thou this way, right? That's this is god's will wouldn't that be

Will & Karen: Yes, please.

Dr Das: Where do I get one of those? So that's another reason it's so hard here compared to from whence we came, because we've got to now get through all the distractions and the mind and the conditioning and the static of this level to get to that still small voice, to that highest voice within us.

And it's not always so easy, but that's how we grow. And we become as one with God, as opposed to just following God.

Will & Karen: Ooh, wow. There's a lot to that there. So then the question jumps to mind immediately. We talk a lot about Archangel Michael and Gabriel and Raphael and met Metatron and all those, [00:27:00] are those great Archangels or they are, I mean, who are we dealing with here? Metatron sounds like it's a robot angel.

Dr Das: Yeah, he does have an unusual name, doesn't he? Most angel names end with L. So yes, so Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Metatron. Metatron's kind of in a different category, but Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, etc. Those are great archangels. But here's the thing, is they're much higher than we've been aware of. In my experience, until now, a veil is opening, right?

Where the two worlds are merging, and we're able to see that these great archangels are much higher. So yes, some are known, Ariel, we've probably heard of Ariel, et cetera, but there are many that are have been serving us in relative anonymity until now. So those aren't like me or Ariel. And there's other, there's [00:28:00] other angels, oh my, there's, there's other angels that have not been named, but they've still been serving us.

They've just been serving us silently, and they're so high, they're almost not individuated. I, from about age 25, 24, 25 on, I started hearing the language of the angels, the angelic language.

Will & Karen: Wow. Did you recognize it as such?

Dr Das: I knew it had something to do with angels. I had this whole and I had been working with angels since I was a child, but I had this big angelic awakening at 24 and I was already living in an ashram deep in a spiritual path, etc. I had this big angelic awakening where I realized I was an angel. I was an archangel and then I heard my angelic name and that opened me up to hearing.

First, I was just hearing these gorgeous sounds and I thought it was gibberish. And I didn't know if I was going crazy. I mean, we still [00:29:00] can't entirely rule that out, but. But I, it took me into bliss. It took me into ecstasy. And so I, at first I just heard it, then I started to try to say it with my human tongue.

And I, and I could, to some extent, you know, you can hear a beautiful sound inside. It doesn't mean you can replicate it on a violin or piano unless you're, you know, Mozart or et cetera. I kept hearing it and what it would do would just transport me into this, this gorgeous heavenly state.

And I knew it was angelic. At first, I didn't know it was a language. I thought it was just a sound or mantras or whatever. And then I realized eventually it was a language and then I confirmed it with my spiritual teacher. And then I just kept opening to it, allowing the awakening, courting it, checking it out with my scientific mind, you know.

and it just evolved to where I could speak it. And what it did, rather than directly [00:30:00] translating, I translate a few of the words. But what it does is it connects me to the great archangels who then bring forward information. They brought forward this whole book. They, you know, they bring forward information.

They would, when I, before I could read the Akashic records myself, they would go read the Akashic records. And then at some point they're like, dude, you can do that. You do yourself. Don't bug us. Right. We got more important things to do. They'll still read the higher records that called the Nicole records of the book of love.

They'll still read those for me. Cause I don't always, I can't always get directly to that. So it's more to bring me into a state to be able to serve.

Will & Karen: So when you finally realized that it was actually a language that you were hearing and you were, I guess, hearing it for a while, able to understand it, is it Is it words? Is it feelings? Like what, what were the messages that you were able to understand?

Dr Das: Yes, it was, it was both, it was words, not, [00:31:00] not human words, not English words, although it would come out in a, in a very beautiful tongue. And what it did is I would start speaking the language and then In whatever way, either it was information or it was healing was needed, then that would come through the language.

And I would speak to the person or people or classes in front of me, usually in English, and, but I would be speaking the language in my head, and that would be a bridge into the, very much into the angelic healing and energy, and then into, it's really from spirit to us. So occasionally I would speak the language out loud, but somewhat rarely and not to big groups and not publicly, because first of all, if someone's driving, they might drive, it completely takes you into another realm.

You know, a lot of times people suddenly get sleepy. You know, they'll get, they'll get very ungrounded in a beautiful way. People are like, [00:32:00] they get kind of, really transported and, and love it and mesmerized by it. But if somebody were driving or flying a plane or something, listening to this, that would not be good.

Will & Karen: Right. They'll be communicating with the angels sooner than they expected. On a personal level, one on one.

Dr Das: personally. Yes.

Will & Karen: in piggybacking off of that, if someone did, because you mentioned, In a lot of the research that I've done on you, you talk about how people can work with their angels. Now, you recommend we don't work with angels, that we actually work with archangels.

How can someone connect with the archangels to work with them, not the level that you do, but, but, you know, Maybe someday aspire to where you are

Dr Das: Well, I think that people already are working with them. I mean, I have a few tips if that's what

Will & Karen: would love to hear some tips. Yes,

Dr Das: okay. Great. Well, I would say first of all, to give yourself the benefit of the doubt. Like I just kind of threw you guys in deep in and I'm like, you're already communicating with angels. Hang out [00:33:00] with your angel, right?

For we even established what an angel was. So first of all, I would say definitely give yourself the benefit of the doubt. Angels are formless, but they are knowable. So if you're not seeing, you know, robes and hot men and dresses, that doesn't mean you're not seeing angels, right? In my experience, they don't really have a lot of form.

Will & Karen: Did they have to be hot men? Yes

Dr Das: Yes. Or hot hot women in dresses.

Will & Karen: you can throw me a bone here doc, come on

Dr Das: It's just, it's so funny. It's a running joke with actually the, the, the person who connected me to you, Sadie, we, that, you know, that was when I start one of my classes with the myths of connecting to angels. And that is one of them that, you know, that they don't have to be hot men and dresses. And then we have this whole slew of like, you wouldn't believe how many sexy hot men in dresses there are on the internet that are angels. First of all, they're not all white. Second of all, they're not all men, you know. Third of all, they don't even [00:34:00] have

form. And Right, I think, though, the reason they're depicted as that is because they're Beautiful, right? So, they're often depicted as beautiful. But, in my experience, There are great bridge to God's spirit to the universe, which doesn't have form.

I mean, we have the created universe, but that which is our higher power, whatever we want to call it, doesn't have physical form, right? So, Realize that you're already connecting to them. Call them in and say, Hey, come in in a way I can receive you, right? You might be more visual, kinesthetic. You might feel goosebumps.

You might hear a sound. You might get a message. So say, come in the way I can receive you. And then I would say, connect me to spirit so that I discern that you are bringing only the highest good to me. So that we feel safe [00:35:00] to connect to this non physical being. And we, we call in the protection of the light for the highest good.

Will & Karen: That's a really important point because you hear a lot of people talking about Transcribed How do you know it's an angel? How do you know it's not a demon in disguise trying to make you feel like you're an angel, right? So any tips on discernment? Because that's super important.

Dr Das: It's so important. And people are like, Oh, I don't want to talk about dark angels. My dears, my darlings, you got to. But here's the good news. I'm gonna start with the good news. Angels know their own. So who better to call out a dark angel or a fallen angel than an angel of light? So if you sense a demon present, and I'm sorry, there are fallen angels, there are demons, there are humans in the flesh who are fallen angels, gosh darn it.

When I get across from God, I'm going to say, dude, seriously, why do you have to make fallen angels so darn magnetic, charismatic? Oh my gosh, right? You feel me on that?

Will & Karen: [00:36:00] yeah.

Dr Das: Yeah. So if you sense that's going on, call upon the angels of light. Those are the, they are your guardians and your protectors and your discerners because yes.

Yes. Fallen angels can come in. The higher we go, the more subtle the test. And the fallen angels are so darn tricky, and us angel folk are even more susceptible to them. Sorry. For those who are just listening, there was a very cute sideways glance happening there to

Will & Karen: Right. I may or may not have looked at Karen like, oops, I've been found out. Right. Right. Right.

Dr Das: you may

Will & Karen: Right. Mm hmm.

Dr Das: it's really challenged them.

I am all on board with saying. If you're not sure, challenge them, say, you know, if it's, it depends on your path, but like, who do you say is [00:37:00] the living son of God? Or who do you say is, you know, who dictated the Quran to Muhammad? It depends on your, your religion, right? Or your path. Or, or who built the mountains.

right? Or what is love something that you know the right answer to. And you'll often catch them,

cause they'll try to be sneaky. Also, it's, you gotta go within and just trust your instincts and your intuition. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. But if it's, if it's someone inside and non-physical being saying.

Beloved, you know the way you know, what's the highest choice here? Let me help you make that highest choice and amplify the spirit for you. Right? This is a being that is trying to encourage you to be holy, to be godly, to be spiritual. If it's like Yeah, put it all on red, or if it's like, [00:38:00] go, you know, be a star so people follow you.

Not saying that's bad, because maybe that's your path, but do you see what I'm saying? If it's, if it's personal gain, probably not the

Will & Karen: Right. And I've heard that the messages that are rooted in love are from angelic beings or from the light, but those that are rooted in fear or anger or jealousy or greed, envy, those are the ones that you need to be careful of. So if, if you look at the, question, you get whatever answer you get, if it's, if you can tell it's rooted in the right place, then that's how you could know.

I think, Will, for your pragmaticness that whole, you know, go with your gut, I think that is the um, layman's term for listen to the angels because our body responds so much to all of that. So you know, you know when you get a bad vibe and you can overlook it. It's a, It's not really a red flag.

It's a little pink. No, you know, but we don't pay attention to that. And we, we try to explain it out just like, you know, we talk about coincidences and is it a coincidence or is it a miracle? It's all semantics. [00:39:00] Right.

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

Will: And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians.

Will & Karen: right. So what about angelic numbers? Angel numbers? Right? 1111, 444, 111s. Is that really truly them trying to communicate with us? Or is that just coincidence?

Dr Das: Well, I'm gonna have to go with Karen on, you know, probably more synchronicity than coincidence. And again, that's just two sides of a coin, right? I'm not, again, I have this, you know, this, this cursed blessing of the, of a family of all scientists, all of them, Oh, did I mention all of them? Right, so

I think it's both and. I think sometimes, now here's the thing. I love muscle testing and pendulums and you know, cards and all that as much as the next guy, but I can manipulate them. So I think we have to be, all of us can, right? So I think we have to be very discerning and go, is this my desire?

Speaking and wanting to [00:40:00] find a sign, you know, do I need a sign of your sign? or so I think it's both. And I think certainly, absolutely, they can communicate through numbers are very sacred. You know, Pythagoras was actually a spiritual teacher, you know, the Pythagorean theorem. Numerology.

Numbers can be extremely sacred. So absolutely, they can be angels communicating to us because we, you know, we need miracles. This place is tough, as we talked about. We need some miracles. So I think it is certainly angels communicating to us. And sometimes it may not be. But it also, if it's not, but it's us wanting to see it that way, it gives us a clue into what we are wanting and desiring.

And sometimes we don't know.

Will & Karen: Gosh, I could talk to you forever, but I definitely want to touch on your book because I found it fascinating. It's called, well, now we know it's your angelic ancestry.

Dr Das: Oh, you said it so Thank you. But then it goes on to say, discover your angelic name, heritage, and higher purpose. [00:41:00] What? It really, all, we can do, a book will help us discover that stuff?

Will & Karen: It's

Dr Das: Yeah, absolutely. It took me freaking 30 years to put that in one book. I almost killed myself. I wrote it on that balcony outside. Because to commune with nature and I did it in the way that I very similar to how I had you just connect through their guardian angels where I would start off with because I had the 30 years was a disadvantage.

How do you distill that in? You know, 250 pages. So I started off and I would just. unhook my consciousness and allow them to speak. And then some of that is direct messages, which you'll see that in italics in the book. So you can get the energy more purely. And then the rest of it, I edited into content because archangels often speak more formally than we're used to. I took out the, the, you'll forgive this term, but I took out the sexiest part of the, my classes, right? And this is actually, I, [00:42:00] I went to a big editor who said, cause I, I started with this compendium. Nobody's going to read all that. And she said that the, the, the thing that people want is they want their angelic name, right?

And so that was really where it started was you, you, there is a process to find, you work up to it. Let's go. So it's the sixth chapter of the book. You work up to really getting a basis to getting your name. And I used to do it in classes and then I recorded a meditation to see if people could get their name with a meditation.

And I sent it out to tons of people and they were getting it. I'm like, Oh my goodness, they're getting it. And it was changing them. And so then I put that, so that's the processes in the book. It's, you get the foundation of how do you, Accurately remember your name, which comes from the angelic language.

So you two will be here in the angelic language. A few syllables of it.

Will & Karen: Just don't drive while you're doing it.

Dr Das: please. There actually is a story where I was driving doing it, but that was, you'll see, I'll tell you how to do that. And then [00:43:00] your, it actually, the title is going to be your, your arch, your angelic ancestry. Discover your archangelic name, cause it is your archangelic name. Heritage. So your angelic heritage is what we've, we've been talking about and your higher purpose is connoted or reflected by your name. And then I lead you on a whole process to really connect. A lot of people have a sense of their higher purpose. So this is a very specific, not just your purpose this lifetime, but all of them.

Will & Karen: have won me over. I am definitely buying the book because I need to know my name. I already know what Karen Aiel's name is, so we won't have to worry about it. But I definitely know I just not will I L so cool. Now the book comes out in the spring of 25, right? So we got a little bit of a way to go. So,

Dr Das: We do have a little bit of a way to go. Yes. [00:44:00] Actually comes out July, 2025.

Will & Karen: July, even worse than spring. Oh my God. Why are we even talking about this now for crying out loud? You got to come back right before it,

Dr Das: want to come back. You guys are the best. This I'm adopting you

Will & Karen: Well, that promises promises, and you know, we've heard that before, but no one ever pulls out on the balcony. You know, it's actually for those that are only listening to this audio, you should check out the video because you'll see the mountains behind her.

They're just gorgeous. I can just see him. Oh, I could probably channel an angelic message in that location for crying out loud, but now. If someone absolutely wanted to make sure they did not miss out on your book, is there, do you have an advanced sale option or is there a list you can get onto?

Dr Das: it's Alisha Das, just my name, AlishaDas. com forward slash book. Very simple. If they don't remember that, they just go to AlishaDas. com and just scroll down and then you see where you get on the list for the book launch. And so what I'm doing is I'm [00:45:00] releasing excerpts from the book now.

to kind of, to keep people engaged until the book comes out. And I'm also will be having all kinds of fun pre releases and bonuses and a summit with. I have a podcast as well with, with thought leaders on it. And so, they'll get all kinds of notice about some. opportunities with that so they can join now.

And then also if they want, they can join my email list and every, for example, I did the email. I'm sending out tomorrow will be what is who built the pyramids.

Will & Karen: Ooh. Oh, okay. Uh, Wait, hang on. But speaking of your podcast, we, we definitely want to mention that because you've had some notable guests on like Marianne Williamson on your show and that kind of stuff. So it is not. A little show for any purpose. I mean, if you love this show, you're going to love her.

So definitely look it up. So we're going to add a direct link to your website on our show notes. So if you didn't have a pen in that particular moment, you know how to get there. Go to [00:46:00] SkepticMetaphysician.com, go to her episode page. You'll see the link directly laid in our show notes. We'll also lay in the link to your, or the name of your podcast so people can find it as well if they are interested in, in following along.

Of course, of course. Thanks.

Dr Das: called Live Your Love and I want to promote this. So if you send me the information, I will promote

Will & Karen: Well, we were certainly appreciate that. Absolutely. Alisha, this has been literally the time I'm looking at the clock and I'm cringing because it's gone so fast truly. Sometimes you have a conversation and you know that it's, it's just meant to be a much longer one. So please, we hope that you will consider coming back right before your book comes out so we can remind people because it'd be great to have you on.

We have a lot more to discuss about angels, I'm sure.

Dr Das: Absolutely love it. I would absolutely love it. It's been such a delight to be with you and to be with your listeners and viewers. And I just send so much angelic love to each of you and to all of your hearts and to our planet at this beautiful, pivotal

Will & Karen: Wow, well thank you so much. [00:47:00] Before you go, last thing, is there any kind of message that you feel is coming through that you, that you really feel our audience or us or someone, the world at large really needs to hear?

Dr Das: Well, let's give it to the angels, including Cara Niel.

Will & Karen: That's totally your name for that one.

Dr Das: Okay. So let's dance.

Oh, sweet souls, this is an intense time, but know that everything has already occurred. Time is but a construct to help you organize your karma. Truly, all is occurring as it should. Believe it or not, there is a destiny to this planet, as there is a destiny to each heart and soul upon it. From the tiniest hummingbird, [00:48:00] to even a microbe, to the most giant mountain, and to the beautiful godlings called humans that walk this earth.

Know that we angels recognize Your travails, we witness your heartache, and we stand by, ready to guide you aloft into the truth that you were born the beloved of God. We are always with you. We learn from serving you, and you serve us by allowing us to serve you. So call upon us, and we will always answer with love.

Will & Karen: Always forget that. All we have to do is call. And I always forget. I always forget. And we hear all the time, dang it, I need you, angels, I need you to remind me to call on you. Do you think that'll work? A little string around your finger. Right? We're crying out loud. All right. This was amazing. Thank you for that beautiful [00:49:00] message.

It is so needed in this time. So we really appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming on the show. We look forward to staying in touch and and having you back very soon.

Dr Das: I would love it. So much love to you both, and to everybody listening. Until we meet again.