Manifesting in the 5D with Award-Winning Psychic Medium Jill M. Jackson

Will & Karen: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes, you are not going to believe who we've got on the show today. Who do we have? She's an internationally celebrated psychic medium. Ooh. A spiritual teacher and get this, she won Psychic of the year, two years in a row. What? I didn't even know there was a psychic of the year.

That's awesome. Two years. Two years in a row, Carol. Wow. Yeah. Oh. And, uh, she also got an activism award for helping animals. Oh, nice. Yeah. Like how much more awesome can one person get? Right. That's pretty awesome. What she's actually is going to excite you even more. She is an ascension alchemist. Isn't that exciting?

It is, and I don't even know what that means. I don't know what that means either. What? It sounds so woo or maybe, whoa, I don't know. And ascend. Well, she see, she mentors and guides others through processes of healing. Mm-hmm. Releasing karmic patterns, activating their innate spiritual gifts. Nice. She's a psychic channel that [00:01:00] channels wisdom from the higher realms with messages for humanity.

She uses tools like visualization intention and quantum energy, and her book. Is all about co-creating a reality that aligns with someone's soul purpose. Nice. In addition to understanding the collective evolution. Ooh. Yep. And one of her gifts is that of a catalyst, awakening others to their divine potential and intuitive abilities.

So maybe she can help us. Maybe she can help you. 'cause I don't have nothing. Uh, it sounds like you're getting excited. I am getting very excited. We'll Get ready for an episode filled with wisdom, laughs, and maybe even a few aha moments as we welcome the one and only Jill m Jackson to the show. Don't go anywhere. The skeptic minute physician starts now. [00:02:00]

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And if we mention it's a hundred percent free. Check out our show notes for the link to our inner circle and join today and then drop in and say hello and tell us what episode you heard this on. We might just give you a shout out on the show. Alright, let's get on with the show. Hey there, I'm Will. And I'm Karen. And today's guest is none other than Jill m Jackson. She's better known as the Mississippi Medium. She's an internationally acclaimed psychic, a spiritual teacher, and the award-winning author of the groundbreaking new book, manifesting Your Magic in the five D. [00:04:00] Now Jill, she has a gift for making the mystical, practical, offering transformative teachings and mind blowing psychic readings that leave even the biggest skeptics speechless.

Will & Karen: Yay. I totally thought you were about to sneeze, so I had to stop. No, I was clapping. Now in this her latest book, Jill Reveals why the Law of Attraction doesn't always deliver and introduces us to other spiritual laws that. Elevate manifestation to a whole new level. Now she dives deep into the topics like manifesting in the quantum field, uh, the role of past lives in karma in shaping our reality and how understanding collective consciousness can take our spiritual practices to incredible heights.

Jill's own journey is as inspiring as her teachings, and she's here to explain why so-called manifestation Failures are actually gifts. In disguise and show us how to harness the magic of five D consciousness to turn our dreams into our reality. Welcome to the [00:05:00] show, Jill m Jackson. How are you today?

Jill: I am

doing amazing.

Thank

you so much, Karen and

Will.

Will & Karen: And Well, we are so excited. I'm very excited now after hearing all of that Yes. To, to chat with you and to just Oh. Hear everything you've gotta teach us. the obvious question right off the bat is exactly what excited us in the teaser intro. What the heck is an ascension alchemist?

Jill: That is a great question. So if you understand

traditional alchemy,

an

alchemist, transmutes

usually.

Metals into

gold.

So it's one substance into another substance.

A spiritual alchemist helps

transmute someone that is living in the 3D reality

into the five

D reality.

Will & Karen: So there's hope for us. Ah,

Jill: Well, I'm looking at both of your auras and you were tapped into the five five Really?

Yes.

Will & Karen: Yes. Well, that's good to [00:06:00] know. So what does, what about, uh, auras tell you that

Jill: I can see auras and they're very clear. When

you

have an aura of someone that's anchored in the third dimensional reality, it's a darker aura, meaning

they're have limiting

they have a lot of anger,

fears, things like

that.

Someone who has laughter, joy.

Understanding the higher realms.

you can see it in their aura.

Will & Karen: Okay, so you got me with the laughter and the joy, but I'm not sure what the, being in touch with the outer realms because, just because, I mean, so some, some poor person down the road who just loves to laugh a lot, will, um, doesn't necessarily mean he's tapped into the five D right.

is

Jill: Very true. However, again, I can look at your aura and it's, it's clear.

It. has a lot of wide

into it. You're a lot more tapped in that you think you are

[00:07:00] will

Will & Karen: see, I told you. Okay. Okay, well that's good then. How can I externalize that? Because, having it in my aura is cool and all, but I need to be able to touch it and feel it and like really know it.

Jill: and that is what I love doing, is teaching people to tap into our God-given intuition. You know, so much of the old paradigm. Teaches us that it's evil and

it's not real and not to pay attention to

it.

And that's what I love helping people do. Breaking out of those old boxes, the

chains that hold us

back.

Will & Karen: can you help anybody, you know, we're talking about the people that are really, have the fear and they're ensconced in the 3D. Do they have hope too?

Jill: Absolutely. Everybody

has hope.

Yes.

Will & Karen: what would, I guess maybe the first steps be? I mean, how. When someone comes to you and, and they're asking for help, do you read their org?

What, how do you start that whole process?

Jill: Yeah, I have different [00:08:00] offerings. I help people through

readings,

and then I help people through mentoring. And the reason I wrote my book is because. I'm

known as somebody that can manifest

anything,

but I came across something that I was not able to

manifest, it's a long story and I tell the

whole story in my book,

but I wanted to go on a

quest and find out why I was not able to manifest it when I was following the teachings

of the law of

attraction.

Will & Karen: Oh, okay. You got my attention because I am not someone that can manifest very easily. So maybe there's something to this.

So what, and I know in the introduction when I, when I did some research into you, I found that, um, you believe that the law of attraction, you know, we all read or watched the Secret right when it came out in that whole deal. But you feel that, that there, there's something missing from that whole equation.

So what, what is it? What are we missing?

Jill: Yes, there was actually a lot missing. I do give a lot of [00:09:00] accolades to the original teachings of the Law of

Attraction and.

It actually goes back

to Blavatsky, uh, many,

many, years ago, Uh, but it was made famous

with, you know, with the teachings of the

secret.

what happens is that's only one spiritual law.

And if what we're trying to manifest is not in

alignment

with our sole contract, we are

not going to be successful in manifesting

what we

thought we want. And to remember the song, unanswered

Prayers

by Garth Brooks. It's a

country

song.

there's a lot to

that.

Will & Karen: What? What do you mean there's a lot to that? Unanswered

Jill: Okay.

Yes. So a lot of times we as

humans think we want to manifest something that is not in

alignment with our original soul contract.

Before we are born, before we incarnate.

we meet with our spirit

guides [00:10:00]

and we come up with a plan, just kind of like an architect has a blueprint

to build a house. It's the same with our life and we

work on our challenges that people we're gonna meet,

The the karma, the past lives, all of it

is

packaged together, so to speak.

And

when we are born, a lot of times we forget that,

and especially with a lot of the

dogma

and we're programmed over time not to pay attention to our

knowings.

There's so many gifted

kids out there

that see angels,

that see the spirit world, that know

things before they're going to happen

and the adults in their

life,

sadly tell them.

That it's not real. And so

over time they stop believing in the magic.

Will & Karen: Wow.

Jill: And what I love helping people do is get to know the core

of what your purpose is on the planet.

Will & Karen: Okay? So then, if you are coming here, your sole contract, [00:11:00] the, the, the, the plan that you made, the blueprint you made before you, you incarnated on this planet. Said, you will not have a Lamborghini, no matter how much you manifest that Lamborghini, you're only gonna get a matchbox car. Is that right?

Jill: Exactly. Yeah. So think about it, how boring life would be if everybody was driving

around with a

Lamborghini and everybody was driving around with a

red Lamborghini.

That's not what life is

about.

We actually have the most soul growth through our challenges.

If you think about it.

If you think about the challenges in your life,

that's when

we learn the most.

Will & Karen: most. well then I'm gonna have to have a talk with my spirit guides because I did not sign on to having nothing on this time around. Yeah. How do you, how do you reconcile that, you know, if someone is just trying so hard to leave a good life and lead a good life and, and maybe they just want something simple like, I don't know, a, a healthy [00:12:00] and they can't get that, but they're a good person.

Like how, how do they become okay with it? It just not being part of their sole contract?

Jill: that is a great

question,

and 95% of the people do have a contract to

meet.

a sole

contract.

But what happens is

when

we have not done

our own inner work, our shadow work.

To understand our vibration and let's say we're vibrating in a place of fear and you're own that hamster wheel of, oh, all men are terrible

and I'll never meet anybody and

they're own and on and own, then that's what

you're going to attract

into your life.

There's a

spiritual law called the spiritual Law of vibration and the spiritual Law of action. So our thoughts truly do have an impact. Our words have a an

impact.

So the key is to do our work,

get our [00:13:00] vibration high,

and it's like a

magnet. Then

we start

meeting those people who are

like-minded.

and can

servee our sole purpose right

along with

Will & Karen: with

us.

Okay. I, I think we need to take a step back and, and, and dive into those laws because, uh, I, would have assumed that those were all kind of going together. Right. So what is the difference between the law of attraction, law of vibration, and law of action? question.

Jill: Okay, so it does start with the law of

attraction,

meaning what we want to manifest. We do want to start

speaking it, but we

can't just sit in a lotus position. And our house is waiting for that to happen.

Will & Karen: We, we not. Okay.

Jill: Alright, so when we start researching and we start diving into what brings us joy, that triggers the universe, that is the spiritual law of [00:14:00] action that sends out a vibration or a signal, if you will,

into the universe.

Will & Karen: You got that? I did. And that's, you know, we hear that a lot. You have to, it's manifesting isn't just thinking about wanting it. You have to actually work for it and take action. Right? Yeah. Do something for it.

So then, but, but then, so. If I wanted to manifest a Lamborghini, my action would be just going to the Lamborghini shop, no?

Jill: Well, that would be part of

it.

But what

happens a lot of time will, is that our limiting beliefs. Tell us that we're never going to get it. So our subconscious

mind

holds our triggers and our traumas and those limiting beliefs.

So that's why I teach people in

my book,

when you

wanna manifest, you

wanna raise your vibration and

you're

going to the quantum, you're going to the higher

dimensions

[00:15:00] because in the higher dimensions. Fears and

limitations don't exist.

Will & Karen: So now is there a possibility of when you go into the quantum to, I don't know, maybe.

Edit your contract a little bit. Got a lot of white out, lot of white out. mean, can, can you

Jill: Yes,

I teach people to to do that.

Will & Karen: Ah, Absolutely.

Jill: But again, think about someone who had a past life

where.

They manipulated someone. They had a lot

of

money.

They were greedy,

They did not share their resources with others. Their soul may have chosen in this lifetime to balance that karma and not have an

opportunity

to hoard. A lot of people that have had near-death experiences come back from those experiences.

Saying that the

[00:16:00] Lamborghinis and the Pradas and

on and on and own are not truly what life is about.

Will & Karen: about. Right. It's really a Porsche. It's about the love will. Oh my gosh. Okay. All. No. Wait. That's not very loving, is it?

No. No, it's not. Caress the love into you. Okay. That. Well, that sounds a little weird in that point. That does sound weird. Nevermind. Anyway, Ms. Jackson, back to you. Uh, so, well I, and I don't wanna necessarily go off topic, but I'm dying to hear about the Psychic of the Year award. Like, what? But we're right in the middle of the topic.

You called your horses. Are we? But no, we just talked about how you can, you know. Edit it, but she's gonna show, tell us how. Right? Because I can imagine in, uh, in the, you, you, you say going to the quantum realm, I, I, you know, do the doctor strange thing with the ring and the circle of fire and you walk through and you're in this weird, like, world full of triangles and squares and things like that.

That's not at all we're talking about. Right? So how does someone go into [00:17:00] the quantum realm to white out their mistakes or the things they no longer want in their contract?

Jill: Yeah,

sometimes it is

Will & Karen: is like that

though.

Oh. Ooh, that sounds fun. Yes. Okay. Sign me up. I'm in.

Jill: Okay.

Will & Karen: board. I want one of those rings.

Jill: Yeah. The first key is meditating and doing learning mindfulness. Through yoga or meditation or anything like that.

listening to high vibrational hurts, music helps elevate our consciousness.

I love 9 63, 7

41. 5

28

Will & Karen: Hertz. I'm pretty sure it was 8 6 7 5 3 0 9. You are on fire tonight? No. Uh, so we've done, we've we've talked to the people at the Monroe Institute and they do Hemi sink.

Things, binaural beats, that kind of thing. Mm-hmm. That's what we're talking about. It's changing by listening to certain frequencies, changes our vibrational rate, and that gets us to a level. So then you're saying we shouldn't ask for Lamborghini [00:18:00] until we are at Hemis sync level until we are high vibing.

Jill: Well, the

first key is finding out if

that's really going to bring you

joy

in the first place.

Will & Karen: place.

Jill: Now if you're wanting a Lamborghini because you're trying to impress

the

neighbors.

then that's not in alignment

with your soul. But if you're wanting a car because you enjoy the

luxury

and you have fun with it,

Will & Karen: it,

Jill: then absolutely manifests

Will & Karen: that

Okay? So your intentions have to be in the right place in order for it to align.

Jill: pure, yes,

pure intentions.

Heart

Will & Karen: space. Okay. That makes sense. Mm-hmm. Alright. Absolutely.

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

And now back to the skeptic meta physicians.

Will & Karen: Any more questions about manifestation before we go into the psych Medium of the year award? Mm-hmm. Nope. Okay. [00:19:00] Alright. I ask you a question.

Okay. I gotta know. No, I just, I just wanna know. So how, how do they, how did you win that? Like, did, did you have to do a test? Did people just rate you? How did that work?

Jill: Yeah. Great question.

Just to be

part of best

American psychics, you have to have

two blind

readings

so the person doesn't even know who

they're gonna read.

Less than 10% of the people are accepted in to Best

American

psychics.

I think there's less than a hundred of us in the

country.

within that, each year they award Psychic of the Year, and it's based on

accuracy.

It's based

on.

Helping your

fellow colleagues, there's a lot of different

areas

that

they

rate

Will & Karen: rate you in.

So is it the same person that everybody reads to see if they get the same answers or like, do, are you like holding up cards and saying, you know, what's on the other side of this card?

Jill: No, it's, it's just blind readings that's just

to [00:20:00] get into the organization.

So in other

words,

the person

that's trying to get in

gets a phone call from a random person. You don't know their

name. You

don't know who they are, and you have

to give them a

reading.

and you have to do that twice.

it's a tested organization.

Will & Karen: right? Yeah. That's awesome. Boy, that sounds exciting.

And so then once you get in, How, how does the, I mean, I guess it's not really a competition, but it kind of is, if you are the best one, is it a competition? Like how does that work? And as a psychic, you would know that you were going to win before you got into it. Right? Well, she knew.

Jill: You know,

that's the question we get asked all the time. Why haven't we won the lottery?

But

again,

that's not what it's about. Psychics have our

own challenges.

as well. I tell my husband when I get these downloads, listen to them because they don't come all the

time. But when my

guides need me to know

something, [00:21:00] it's

like

a dictation that I hear in my

Will & Karen: in my head.

So, so you, you're clear audience is that. It.

Jill: Claire

Voyant. Claire Ian. Claire Cognizant.

Claire

Will & Karen: Claire Sentient. I have

Jill: all of the

Claires

Will & Karen: here. Oh, you are? Full of cs. Got it.

So full of

cs. So is it, is it, does it sound like your own thought or does it sound like a totally different voice?

Jill: Totally

Will & Karen: different

voice.

Mm. Wow. That must have been intense the first time that happened. Yeah. It doesn't freak you out at all.

Jill: Well, when I was a child, I couldn't hear them. I could only

Will & Karen: see

them,

Oh. and

that did freak me

out so much better. Yeah.

Jill: I'm like, what are all these random people doing in my

house?

Will & Karen: Right, right. Oh my gosh.

And to make matters, I don't know. It was worse but more challenging or more interesting is that you actually, you were born a southern Baptist in the Mississippi, right? So this was like, yes. Who I don't want to, you know, say what it is, but uh, how did you get beyond that? And then how was your family [00:22:00] feeling about all this stuff?

Jill: Well, I wrote an entire book about that one too, called Mississippi Medium from Southern Baptist to talking to the

dad

Will & Karen: Mm-hmm. Oh my goodness.

Jill: because yes, that was a whole story in

itself. But thankfully

my

family, my mother was

a

medium.

and my dad is highly

intuitive.

Will & Karen: Oh,

Jill: So it was

Will & Karen: was supported?

Well, that's good. That's good. But your, your community, I'm sure it must have, I mean, it must have been difficult, um, growing up in Mississippi as a psychic.

Jill: Yes. Only one of my friends knew about my gifts.

It was not something that I broadcast, I call it, coming out of the psychic closet, and I finally did that, I think in

Will & Karen: in my thirties.

Wow.

Jill: It took

a

while.

Will & Karen: Are you still in Mississippi or did you move elsewhere?

Jill: I

Will & Karen: I escaped, and then

Jill: I'm back. I've been back for the

past eight

Will & Karen: past eight

years.

Just when you thought you could escape. They brought you back. They pulled you [00:23:00] back. Well, they needed her. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I guess you were drawn there because that's where the work is.

That's very true. Yeah.

Jill: yes. It's kind of the last

Will & Karen: frontier.

So you speak a lot about, the collective consciousness, the importance of understanding that in order to help. Well, back to manifesting again a little bit. What, what does, what do you mean by that?

Jill: Well, if we think about the

things that

hold us

back,

it's our ego

and

our

fears, right? We all have the, that voice that comes

in.

And tries

to tell us, who do you think you are?

You're not

gonna be able to be

successful in that and on and on and

on.

That is the subconscious and it holds our

traumas,

and that's part of what I love doing is helping people

break

free

from

that.

and

getting into the

quantum.

None of that

Will & Karen: that

Jill: in that

Will & Karen: that realm.

So,

so

is that what, so what do you mean by, is that what you mean by [00:24:00] the, the, in the importance of the interconnect of all beings?

Jill: Yes. Because

part of the limiting beliefs is, it's kind of like

you asked

earlier,

is it a

competition? There's actually

enough for everyone.

There's enough

abundance.

It's a third dimensional thought process

thinking

that there's a limited

amount of

money, there's a limited

amount of.

Food and

water and

resources awards and

No, no, no. So when we can get out of that limiting thought

process

into

the

quantum,

I use the term life

limitless information for everyone, and we're

tapped into the collective consciousness, and that's how the wisdom comes

in.

Will & Karen: Wow. That, that really is incredible. Oh, so do you, for you, in your experience, do you have to like focus and tap in or do, [00:25:00] do the downloads just come, are they always happening?

Jill: Great question too

for a while. They came all the time. And I

trained with some of the best psychics and mediums in the

world. I went to the uk.

I trained in

New York, New Jersey,

and that was before I

opened my own

school because it's important to learn how to shut

it down.

I liken it to a plug. If you're plugged in all the time, it's gonna drain your

energy,

So I've taught

myself

to plug

in

and plug

out.

But, or unplug. But when it's me and my guides need me to know

something,

it just

comes in, usually in

that four

o'clock in the

Will & Karen: in the

Ah,

yeah. I was, I was gonna say, are you getting a message anytime of from, from us? We hear that a lot. The wee hours, three and four o'clock in the morning. Why is that? Because you're

Jill: because

Will & Karen: straight of mind, right?

Jill: yeah, the veil is

thin. [00:26:00]

You're in a, in a

sleep. You know, I tend to be a little

stubborn sometimes and my

my guides tell

me they

need to hit me over the head with a two by four.

Will & Karen: Oh, Don, I know that.

Jill: But at four in the

morning,

I'm really out of my

body, and when the

downloads start coming

in,

then you know, my own

ego can't

Will & Karen: start

questioning.

So what has been one of the downloads that has impacted you the most?

Jill: Oh, well one of them

was was

Will & Karen: it was time

to

move

back to

Mississippi.

No, see this is so, no,

Jill: I know. I said,

I think you have you

Will & Karen: have the wrong

person. A different channel.

Uh, can I hang up? That's sorry. Wrong number.

Jill: Exactly.

Will & Karen: Exactly.

Jill: And, and then, uh, recently I was told that it was time to

leave,

but they haven't told me where I'm

Will & Karen: I'm going

yet.

Oh, I heard Virginia's nice.

Jill: Oh yeah,

Will & Karen: Wow. So, [00:27:00] and, and you just, I guess, I mean, do you have to follow the, I mean, I guess you don't have to move, but, well, because then would life be hard? It's a two by four, don't forget.

Jill: yeah. It's the spiritual law. Free will. We always have free will and our guides will not

interfere.

With our

free will.

But again, remember that they're looking at our soul

contract and they're

helping us, and I have given them permission to bring these

downloads

in.

So I've learned to

Will & Karen: to listen.

Gotcha. Wow. So you give them permission. I like that. They don't just like bombard you. Yeah.

Jill: Right.

Will & Karen: I

Jill: And they won't

Will & Karen: either.

So how do you make the initial. Contact with your guides.

Jill: Meditation

Will & Karen: Yeah.

Jill: and sometimes it

takes a

while and

it's

kind of like

getting to know anybody

else. People

think that they are gonna go into

this one

meditation [00:28:00]

and

you know, like you said, the triangles and the colors and the fireworks and

all of

that. It's

normally not like that.

it's it's a slow process to

get to

Will & Karen: to know them.

Well, if someone wanted to, um, read your book or get a reading from you or something like that, what's the best way for someone to reach out to you?

Jill: Www glm jackson.com and uh, my books are on my website and they're

on they're on Amazon,

and then

Will & Karen: and then my readings are on

there

as

well.

And your books are manifesting your magic in the five D. Okay. And then you said you had another one about being a psychic medium in a Southern Baptist upbringing.

Jill: Yes. Yes. And that's just kind

of my memoir

talks about some of the experiences I've

had.

I've had experiences with Michael

Jackson.

Uh, I've worked with a lot of missing [00:29:00] persons, a lot of

law enforcement.

I'm working on

some

cases right

now.

Will & Karen: Wow. Very cool. Wow. That is very cool. Great. And that's amazing that law enforcement believe in or are willing to kind of take that step and reach out to you.

Yeah, sometimes

Jill: Yeah.

Most

Will & Karen: aren't.

yeah. Like, it, it's gotta be the last, last ditch resort, you know? Yeah. I, I, I might know a guy. Yeah. But hopefully soon that'll start to change and it won't be, you know, hopefully soon. Yeah. Wow. So is there any last message you wanna make sure that, that the folks listening in or watching right now will, will get from you?

Jill: Just remember our divinity

and our

sovereignty.

You know, there's a lot of chaos going on in the world right now,

and one of the messages that our loved ones

tell

me

is to laugh more, to play

more.

to remember that childlike

Will & Karen: nature, And I think

that's a

great message.

That might be why I'm touching it.

The five D 'cause I'm just like a [00:30:00] child.

Yes.

Alright, well, Jill, we're gonna add, uh, links directly to your website. In our show notes. So if you don't, have a pen at the moment and you know what to do, you go to skeptic me physician.com. You can go to her episode page. You'll see the links laid out there directly for you, so it's easy for you to reach out to.

Jill, it's been a pleasure meeting you. Hopefully, hopefully I. You'll get the message as to where you're going to be going to anytime now and maybe we'll, we'll meet down the road somewhere 'cause that would be great. We like to travel, so

Yes, absolutely.

Alright, Jill, awesome. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure having you on the show.

Jill: Thank you.

both.

Will: A huge thank you to you.

Will & Karen: Okay. So, um, alright, we, we, we were, um, just about you. You had a message that was coming for you. You want to tell us about something about

Jill: Yeah. Um, I see a European connection and I feel like there's something coming with France and also [00:31:00] Italy. I don't know if you've been to either one of those places yet.

Have you been to both?

Will & Karen: Uh, yes. We, we actually, uh, are avid travelers. We were just in France, in Spain this past summer actually.

Jill: Okay. And have you already recorded an episode from there?

Will & Karen: No, we hadn't thought of that, but that's full disclosure. I broke my ankle. I was there, so I, I was, wasn't the best frame of mind, but

Jill: Okay.

Will & Karen: Do you see that happening?

Jill: Yeah, I see some kind of, they're showing me like this bridge, it's an international. Bridge, which kinda shows me more opportunities coming and Italy's really highlighting for me. I love Italy. Yeah. I was there for a while to learn cooking classes and to learn the language. So it's like a place that feels like home to me.

Yeah. Yeah. You have a past life there and that you actually have a past life together there in, in, uh, Sicily. [00:32:00] Oh,

Will & Karen: Sicilian. Ooh, wow.

Jill: Is that, is that connected to Italy? I'm horrible with

Will & Karen: Geograph Fisher. Yeah. It's part of Italy's part. It's not island enough. Yeah.

Jill: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I heard that. I heard that.

Will & Karen: Very cool. Wow. Well, long time listeners will know that we are actually working on a project we, that we just launched that long ago, as a matter of fact, that C connects us with all the entire world. Um, and we do have some, we just. Just in interviewed someone or just ha was, were interviewed by someone, uh, from Portugal.

So, um, we have a lot of, uh, con uh, European connections on this.

Jill: Beautiful. And it's going to keep expanding. Excellent.

Will & Karen: Oh, yay.

Jill: And then there's a small dog in spirit around which one of you had this small dog?

Will & Karen: Uh, when I was growing up, we had a small dog.

Jill: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to just say that from way, way back.

Will & Karen: Oh wow. Okay. Um, uh, do, do know what it looked like? Do you know what kind of dog it was?

Jill: [00:33:00] I, it looks to be about 12 to 15 pounds. Like it's flu, it's kind of a fluffy.

Will & Karen: Is it white?

Jill: It's light color. I don't see it as white. White.

Will & Karen: Okay. So I'm wondering if it was our, um,

the. Oh my God. I forgot the name of that type of dog that we had.

Jill: Oh, the one we met? Yeah. The one that you had? Yeah, you had two. You had the little tiny poodle.

Will & Karen: Yeah. Not that one.

Jill: And then the other one That was some sort of a terrier. Yes, that's the what I'm talking about. It's a like a light brown. Yes. He was light brown.

Lance. Yes, Lance a lot? Yes. Okay. Wow. Alright. Yeah, so he is like jumping around behind you there.

Will & Karen: Oh my gosh. That would explain my back ache.

Jill: Oh cool. Very cool.

Will & Karen: Alright, so, so then do you suggest we go back to Europe this summer?

Jill: Yes. Yes, absolutely. Okay. That's it. [00:34:00] 'cause again, that's anchoring that energy that I was talking about earlier. Awesome. All

Will & Karen: right. And we actually have friends who just moved to Spain. So, um, we do need to go out there. We

Jill: do, absolutely.

Will & Karen: Yeah. But it sounds like Italy.

Jill: Yeah. And we're gonna take our stuff.

Will & Karen: You were just looking for a house in Italy? I

Jill: was. Oh. I was just online looking for houses in Italy. Are we moving to Italy? Italy, you may be.

Will & Karen: We're moving to Italy, baby. Oh,

Jill: that would make me so happy. Yeah. We're doing episodes

Will & Karen: from Italy 'cause we're gonna be living there.

Jill: I I've got full blown chills right now. There's, there's a lot coming around that. Very famous

Will & Karen: Vecchio. Yes, of course.

Jill: That's like so beautiful.

Will & Karen: Oh my gosh. You just made our day. That completely amazing. Yes. Awesome. How quickly?

Jill: Two years.

Will & Karen: Two years moving to, to Italy in two years. Okay. All right. It feels like

Jill: there's a possibility for that out.

Will & Karen: Alright, um, so we gotta go do some. We gotta go there this summer, scope it [00:35:00] out. Right. And then so in preparation for us moving in two years. Perfect. That means Sienna's gonna have to find an international school. That's okay. In Italy. We'll do that. Thank you so much. Thank you. That probably the best possible reading you could have ever given us.

Yes. So thank you for that.

Jill: Oh, beautiful. It was my pleasure.

Will & Karen: Alright. I

Jill: really appreciate it. Have a beautiful night.

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