More Wisdom from the Angelic Collective Judah

Will & Karen: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes. I swear every time she comes on you get this glow about you like you've plugged into some kind of wifi or something. Well, I've plugged into Angie. That's better than wifi. That's right. Because you are right. No, see she's back. Yay. For the third time, no less. One of our all time favorite guests, and honestly, it's kind of like a family reunion by this point, right?

That now you know her as a channel for, the Oprah of the Cosmos. Judah, the angelic collection from the Fifth Dimension. But we know her as a woman who somehow brings tears, laughter, goosebumps, and cosmic mic drops all in under an hour If you're ready for soul level wisdom, loving truth bombs in a reunion with 350,000 of your closest angelic friends, don't you dare hit that skip button 'cause a skeptic starts now. [00:01:00]

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And now back to the show.

Will & Karen: Hey there. I'm will. And I'm Karen and okay fam. This one is special, not just because she's back for the third time, which might officially make her part of the skeptic meditation's crew I might add. But because every time she's here, the [00:03:00] energy just feels different. Angie Hip a channel for Judah, a collective of over 350,000 angelic beings.

Yeah. You heard that right? they've been called the Oprah of the cosmos, and once you hear them speak, you will understand why. She's also the author of the Answer to All Your Questions and Creator of the True You Accelerator. But honestly, labels barely scratched the surface. And if Karen looks a little extra radiant, this episode is because she's literally a part of this Juah collective.

Herself. Yes, we have settled that. So settle in because you're about to reconnect with a whole lot more than just an amazing guest. Welcome to the show, Angie Hippel. How are you doing today?

Anjie and Judah: I'm so great. It is wonderful to be back with you. Will and Karen feels like home, feels like family. I'm so glad to be here.

Will & Karen: 100% you are family, so yeah. So excited to see you again. Right. But, but not like the dysfunctional family they always argue with and stuff like that, but like the, not the Thanksgiving table family. No. Right. The, the, the nice family thing. So it's nice to have you here with us, Angie.

Anjie and Judah: Thank you. So [00:04:00] good to be here. We're gonna have a great time together.

Will & Karen: Yes. Yes indeed. before we started recording, I gave you, a heads up that I wrote some hard questions and I don't know whether you want to answer 'em or you want Judah to answer 'em, but we're gonna, I. We're gonna dive into 'em little bit, a little, but before we do that, for those of you who have not heard or watched our previous episodes with Angie and Judah, I urge you to go back and watch those because those are amazing episodes.

But if you don't want to leave this episode right now, Angie, give us a 350,000 foot overview of who, Judah and you are.

Anjie and Judah: Well, um, Judah kind of popped into my life in a really pronounced and obvious, can't turn it off, ignore it, pretend it didn't happen kind of way about three years ago. I think they are, they are my angel soul family. Uh, they are my higher, higher self or my higher self originates from this collective and.

I'm sure they've been with [00:05:00] me all along for however long my soul's been doing this soul journey thing that we're doing. But like I said, in about three years ago, they just came in like gangbusters and, and this kind of undeniable, can't ignore it anymore kind of way with a direct voice channel. Um. You know, I hadn't planned on being a channeler at all.

That was not like on my wishlist. It wasn't, you know, something I aspired to do, but I enjoyed channeling and it had been an important part of my own spiritual growth. And, uh, yeah. And then there they were. So, and here we are now.

Will & Karen: Like it or not, here we come. Wow.

Anjie and Judah: Total, total life change and change of direction and absolutely glorious and fun and exciting and what.

Will & Karen: And it is incredible, the number 350,000. I can't even imagine what that would feel like. I can't imagine three.

Anjie and Judah: I don't, I, I know, you know, I don't [00:06:00] know how many people show up for the Super Bowl, but sometimes when I watch the Super Bowl, I think, yeah, this is about how many angels there are in the Judah Collective. Maybe you.

Will & Karen: Yeah, there might be more actually than that, but Yeah, that's true. But, but you know what I love about the way you describe Judah the first time you came on the show, you, you described them like a, they, come in and out like a flock of birds. I thought that was like a really cool visual to give you an idea of the kind of collective that we are speaking to a lot of times when we speak with you.

So,

Anjie and Judah: Like they're, they're not like individuals. They, uh, move like the swarm of birds, which is so fascinating. If you've ever had the privilege of seeing a swarm of birds or a school of fish, you know, like. How do those, when those fish swim like that, how do they stay in this perfect synchronicity of movement?

But, but this is how they, they operate and it helps us understand a little bit because, you know, as humans, you know, it's always a challenge just to kind of get along and be kind, but they don't have [00:07:00] that problem.

Will & Karen: Yeah. Yeah. De definitely. In fact, in the, in this 3D world, you get three people in the room. They're not gonna have people, agreeing with stuff, but 350,000 of them, that's pretty intense. I can imagine. Three 50 choosing one person to speak for.

Anjie and Judah: I, I think, you know, just, just a fraction of what they have to offer that it can actually come through me. 'cause I, I kind of have this sense that if. If all of their power and wisdom and insight came through at once, I would probably like disintegrate or dissolve or, so, I'm not sure exactly spontaneous combustion, something like that.

But, um, and I'm sure that I'm not always a pure channel because, uh, I'm sure I have moments where my ego gets in the way or my own perceptions or ideas about things, you know, seep into the mix. But, um, I do my best to stay out of the way and just let them come through as cleanly as they can.

Will & Karen: I love how you say that because when you say, sometimes you, you go, might get in there. That's such a humble way to [00:08:00] present what you're doing when you're letting Judah come in and communicate with you. Most people would be like, oh, no, no, no. It's just them. But you're like, well, you know, I do my best and, and you can feel it.

And even just the way you talk about it, just that graceful image and it's, it's just so beautiful and loving. And, uh, thank you for coming back. and I know that a lot of the, a lot of the wisdom that, Judah has imparted through you for the last however many years. Bound to have rubbed off on you. So, sometimes it's whether you, we talk to Angie or we talk to Judah, we get credible answers, credible information. So in light of that, ooh, we're going to dive into the biggest questions of the universe and then it's up to you or Judah, whether it's Angie answering us or Judah answering us.

It's really up to you guys. we'll play it by ear and if there's anything that you don't feel like you want to answer. Well, too bad. No. Just kidding.

Anjie and Judah: Well, before you ask your first question, I just wanna speak to that because, you know, we're all kind of consumers in this spiritual [00:09:00] space here, right? Like anybody that's here listening is here because you want to be a better person. You wanna be more of your higher true self. You wanna expand into your more enlightened state.

That's why we're here. This, this is what, what we do in this space. And so how do you know Right? What? What's the right. Thing for you to listen to or, or what's gonna actually be helpful or work, you know? So when you angels generally, if you think of about, um, if you imagine in your mind a scale of consciousness and you can actually Google and find a scale of consciousness, if you think of zero being, you know, totally unconscious.

In total despair, suicidal, you know, at the end of your rope and a thousand being a very highly enlightened state like Jesus and the Buddha and loud Sue, right? A fully enlightened master. And then beyond a thousand. Really, you can't, uh, we can't physically stay in a physical body and experience once we go beyond a thousand 'cause it's too much energy for our.

Physical form, but [00:10:00] Judah Angels, uh, they, they're, they calibrate around 5,000. And the scale of consciousness archangels calibrate in, in the hundreds of thou, you know, around 150,000 or so. So, so what is like the reason for channeling right? Is to get in this high vibrational container, uh, that really elevates our level of consciousness.

It gives us a different kind of 360 perspective of life, our life, our circumstance, the cosmos, what's going on in the world. And, and it, and it really helps us to grow because, because we're in an environment, a vibrational environment that's so, um, so elevated. And so that's kind of the point, right, of asking these questions that you're gonna ask.

Will & Karen: Absolutely we, 'cause we know you have the answers. That's why we asked the question. Okay. Well, thank you. That's, that was beautifully said. Uh, I really appreciate you saying, and I feel like you already answered a question with that. I mean. A question I didn't even know I had. [00:11:00] See that's how good you and Judah are.

Andy, you just answered the question before we even asked it. so I guess the first question, is really about, the true nature of reality as Judah sees it, because we talk a lot about the fifth dimension and seventh dimension and three dimension and all that kinda stuff. So, so what is the true nature of reality in the fifth dimension?

Uh, I'm sorry, as they see it from the fifth dimension, is what we perceive here in 3D, just like a sliver of the full picture or what is really reality? I.

Anjie and Judah: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. We would love to speak to this. This is a beautiful question. Uh, there are, as you hear many in this space, talk about, um, none of this is real. It's just a game and so on. Well, this can be difficult to. Ingest or understand. But we recently gave this vessel an experience of this in the night in which she awoke in a black void, which, and overlaid upon this void was grid.

And in the grid as she [00:12:00] moved her head or turned her head side to side the entire grid move. So it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You are uhhuh Uhhuh. The game of life that you are playing is much like a video game, and, but the true you, the higher self, you, the perfect innocent, supreme, divine God aspect of you is like the player outside of the game holding the controller.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. So good. I love this. So, um, I actually had an experience recently of this and more and more as I go into this work, I try not to speak to things too much unless I've actually experienced it. So I've heard all this teaching about, you know, well this is all just a game. We live in a matrix.

All this, but I wasn't sure about it because I didn't have firsthand information about it. So in this dream experience, I actually encountered myself inside a hologram. And when I would tilt my head or turn my head, the whole entire matrix would [00:13:00] move with me. So, um. You know when we Jane from Seth Roberts, the channeller of Seth Roberts way back in the day, I think in the sixties or seventies, she was the first one that introduced us through, through Seth to this idea that we create our own reality.

Well, I'm. Yeah, I'm actually experiencing this. I experienced it in this, uh, dream state. So we are creating everything going on with us. Our fifth dimension, each one of us has a personal field. Yes, yes. Each one has a personal field that exists in the fifth dimension. There is a personal field of will.

There is a personal field of Karen, of Angie, of every person on the planet. Inside this personal field is every thought, feeling, experience, impression that you've ever had in any realm of time and space, any lifetime past. Parallel, present, or future, all of this information is stored in your personal field.

This is your own personal [00:14:00] Akashic record, so to speak. And so when you are operating in your higher self, you are tapped, tuned in to this personal field. You are withdrawing your, your perspective. You are drawing your perspective from this field. Judah is the field of Angie Hippel. In this field are all the angels of the judo collective.

Every experience she has ever had is kept within this field. When she speaks from this field, she has the wisdom of all of these various experiences and perspectives of life and the cosmos. Each of you has your own personal Judah. Each of you has your own personal field and, and every incarnation, which you have ever.

Uh, had and ever will have is resonant within that field. In this field is the perfection of consciousness. You are [00:15:00] innocent, you are divine, you are blameless, you are without error. You, you have. Access to all information there. Mm-hmm. When you tap into this field and use it as the resource to fully source your life, you are in abundance.

There is no lack or limitation. Everything you need to know or understand for the living of your life and the expansion of your soul can be found there. I think that answers some of the question, but maybe not all of it. Do you wanna re direct me back to it or.

Will & Karen: N no, I, I, I wanna say that, uh, I believe more and more every time we see you, you are integrating more and more with Judah because just like the flock of birds. Mm-hmm. Now, this form of birds that you, we talked about earlier, it's like you answer, but you start to answer and Judah comes in and finishes the answer, and then you come back out.

It's like this wonderful dance that we're watching as we are hearing and, and

Anjie and Judah: it's, it does get easier as the weeks and months and years go [00:16:00] by because I, I have to do the really hard work. In between channeling of looking at my own crap and my own mindsets and blocks and ego barriers and you know, whatever it is, fears, pride, whatever. And as I keep surrendering those, I can integrate more fully in with Judah and be more receptive and channel more of who they are, less of just me.

Yeah.

Will & Karen: Yeah, I can totally see that. Yeah. Yeah. I got the answer I was looking for, but as a follow up, the big question that we have heard from people is, this period of human society is so intense. is it that we have chosen to incarnate in this particular period where it's so intense, it's so difficult, so challenging for some people.

Anjie and Judah: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. Because yes, it is so very, very challenging. But this is the catalyst, this is the, the tension. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So they're showing me. [00:17:00] Us in a slingshot, uh, like this massive cosmic slingshot. And it's like, you know, each individual is in the, the back of this slingshot going to be catapulted forward.

But there's so much tension on these, these rubber bands or the Of the slingshot. Yes, yes, yes. So there is so much tension here. Intensity, density, density, intensity, tension. But it is because this will be the very force. Which will catapult you forward into your beauty and your perfection and your innocence and your power.

Mm-hmm. And, and you've chosen this. And so when difficult things are happening, embrace it. Say, this is my catapult, this is the tension that is going to propel me forward. And, and rejoice in that and use it as your. Spiritual practice, the [00:18:00] resistance is the setup, and so don't resist the resistance, cease resisting the resistance, and then the resistance will serve its purpose.

It is a high purpose. Good. So another metaphor for this would be like a kite, right? If you think of a kite, the higher the kite flies, the, the more it goes up into these heavenly realms, the more tension there is on the string. So these experiences in the earth, reality is like, you know, this person holding the, the kite string on the ground, the, the earthbound experience.

So. The choice that it's being offered then is, you know, when we're a kite and we wanna fly higher and higher and truer and brighter and. Towards the sun, metaphorically speaking. But if we complain about the resistance, right, and focus on the resistance, but what happens if you [00:19:00] cut the string? Well, there's no more resistance, but guess what?

You're also not flying anymore, right? So the resistance actually creates the, the possibility of flying higher. And the higher you go, the more resistance there is.

Will & Karen: Right. You cut the strings, only you're plummeting to the ground to do Yeah. Death. Like the catapult. If you get rid of the resistance, it's just gonna flop down. It's not gonna shoot. Right. Well the funny thing is, when she was talking about the tension and like a slingshot, all I can think of is like that, you know that that cartoon when it lets go and you're like, ah, that's kind like where like I'm feeling these days, you know?

Oh my gosh. Yeah. But you know what, it's interesting because it makes it. It, it's such a wonderful way to put it. It makes it easier to understand and to handle the stress and the tension and the resistance when, when you can look at it that way, because right now, so many people just, you have it and you wanna get rid of it because it's uncomfortable and it hurts, and you hear the adage well, you can't appreciate the good without having the bad.

I don't know how much I believe that, you know, but I guess, I guess, you know, you need, you do need both. Yeah. [00:20:00] But this, the way that, that Judah and Angie explained it, it is just so much better. Yeah. No, and, and it's true that the, tension that's part of it. Yeah. It's, what's gonna hone us for what's coming.

It prepares us for what's coming. I love that answer. Totally not what I expect, but I'm really happy that like those little cars, you know, and you gotta like keep putting them back when you let go and they shoot forward. Right, right. Or we're like in the pull it back process. Right. Yeah. Well, following up on that then, there's a lot of folks that not just feel attention, but they feel almost like alone, like Spirit has abandoned them.

What would you say to people who feel that aloneness, even though we know they're not, they feel that way. How can someone come to terms with that?

Anjie and Judah: Well, these, these thoughts and feelings we have, we can know in our conscious mind that we're not alone and that angels are here and supporting us. But subconsciously, you know, as Judah was speaking about our personal field, in our personal field, in the fifth dimension, there are these memories, these stored [00:21:00] thoughts and emotion, these memories of times when.

We weren't supported when we weren't held where there weren't people there for us. So this is such a great question. I actually was working with a gentleman this week in a group healing session, and he said, um, he just brought his, we, we call it our, in our group healing call the peaches and pits. I said It's, you know, share your peaches.

The fruit, but share the pits too. So here's my pit, he said, and this precious gentleman is homeless. He's living out of his car. He's in extraordinary pain, physical pain, and he doesn't have the resources to, um, get the healing he needs. And he said to me in this session, I keep calling out to Judah and they don't answer.

I keep speaking to my angels and guides and no one's coming to help me. Tell me. The, you know, and so I hear that for anybody that's suffering. So as I tapped in with Judah, Judah showed me a picture of him in the [00:22:00] crib. In a crib, and he was crying and screaming and crying and screaming and crying, and his mother didn't come.

And it's nobody came. And so, so in our moments of pain in our, in our human suffering, in our experience, we store in our cellular structure, in our, in our memories, in our personal field, we store these subconscious beliefs. So consciously we may know angels are there for us, but we have the subconscious belief.

When I'm in pain, no one comes from me. When I call, no one answers me. So this sweet little baby boy that, that, uh, called out and no one came that was stored in his inner being as a subconscious belief, when I'm hurting him in pain, no one answers me. And so he was projecting that. False belief onto angels.

And so this was literally creating a block so that he could not receive the breakthrough. So one of the most [00:23:00] important things that we focus on, uh, obviously we're channeling Judah and uh, but we also like to get down and dirty with people and get into these beliefs, find them, locate them, and clear them from your personal field in the quantum field so that they're not.

Hanging you up anymore. And I know that, I know that, I know that that gentleman's gonna send me an email any day now with and and say, I know Judah heard me because this changed, and this changed and this changed. But we had to get rid of that subconscious belief first and replace it with the truth.

Will & Karen: So how, how do you get rid of that subconscious belief? So he, you, he can, you can see it and acknowledge it, but how do you truly get rid of it?

Anjie and Judah: Yeah, I love this. So we have a really inexpensive, uh, program called Judah Treats that, um, you can sign up for to, to learn how to do this for yourself. But let me give you the answer now 'cause I wanna be really generous here. So. [00:24:00] Whenever we're experienced something painful, it's because we have a be.

We've developed a belief system around that. So, um, our conscious mind process is 40 bits of information per second. Our subconscious mind process is 40 million bits of information per second. This is the science of it, so we can consciously. Want to grow consciously, want to be abundant, consciously, you know, work, do our spiritual work, like showing up for skeptic, me, meta positions and so on.

But if we have these beliefs in there, they, um, they, uh, can override. And so it's kind of like we're singing two songs, right? Like if I said, will Sing Happy Birthday and Jingle Bells. You could do that, but you couldn't do it at the same time. You can't sing two songs at the same time. So anytime we're producing something in our life that we don't want, it's because consciously we may want a certain thing, we may want to live abundantly, but we have these subconscious [00:25:00] beliefs like, like, here's a big one.

Many of us want to be more abundant financially. But we have this sub, um, subconscious belief that because we watch people on the world stage that we're very wealthy, but they're wicked and non integrous. And so we, we have this unconscious belief that rich people are wicked and un integrous. And so the part of us that wants to be loving and kind and good and generous and integrous will not allow us to be financially abundant.

So we have to clear out the subconscious belief. So going back to your question, how do you do it? So here's this melu of these, all of these beliefs tucked in there. So we asked Judah, Judah, please tag and treat the belief that is causing this experience right now. Maybe you don't even really know exactly what you're feeling.

You just know something's really wrong. You keep producing this bad fruit, right? Judas taught us that if [00:26:00] you got the fruit, you got the root. Right. So if you, if you're saying all the mantras and doing the affirmations and doing the meditations and listening to all the books and doing all that, and you still don't have that, we'll just use financial abundance as a, as an example.

It's because you have a root. If you've got the fruit, you've got the root bad fruit, bad root. So you know there's a belief in there somewhere. You may not know what it is. So you say, Judah Angels, Archangel Michael, whoever you have a connection with, please find. The subconscious belief that's causing this fruit, this in my life, please tag it and treat it and do a massive change history in every realm of time and space, and every reality, every frequency band, every dimension.

So, you know, we don't always know what the belief is, but if you, a lot of times if you just sit in meditation, the, the fruit will indicate to you what the belief might be. So, uh, I'll give you an [00:27:00] example. There was a beautiful young woman that came to see Chuck, my husband, um, is used to be an acupuncturist who's a brilliant healer.

And he, he was known in our city as the baby whisperer because he had a lot of. Luck with getting women pregnant that were having infertility issues.

Will & Karen: Not, not personally pregnant, but you know, fertility

Anjie and Judah: No. No, not in that way. At

Will & Karen: wanna clarify that because that a little weird, I dunno.

Anjie and Judah: Thank you. Thank you for that. You had my back there. Will, so with acupuncture. So this beautiful young woman came to him, um, with infertility issues and typically Chuck would've been able to get her, help her get pregnant right away with acupuncture.

And she didn't. So he knew there was something going on. So he checked in with his guides and his intuition and he says, dear sweetie, I think you've got an unconscious belief that's keeping you from getting pregnant. I want you to think about this while you're laying on the table. So he did the treatment.

She was laying on the table with the acupuncture needles in. [00:28:00] He popped back in in a few minutes. He said, is anything coming up? She said, yes. She said, I remember when I was a little girl, I asked for a particular doll for my birthday, and my mom bought me a doll, but it wasn't the one I wanted. When I opened the package, the present, and I saw it wasn't the doll that I wanted so badly, I kicked it.

You know, she was little, maybe three, four, I don't know. And she said her mom looked at her and said, if that's the way you're gonna treat your dollies, you can't be a mother. No mother would treat their child like that. You'll never have children as long as that's the way you treat your dollies. So see, in that moment, those words landed in her inner being like a curse.

And she took on, she was hurt. And she took in a, a belief, a judgment that I am not worthy to be a mom. I am not worthy to be a mom. And [00:29:00] so she had long forgotten that. Long forgotten it. Maybe hadn't thought about it in decades, but in that moment, she got free of it and she got pregnant right away. So this is why we say Judah, tag and treat.

So imagine if you had a herd of a thousand cows and you wanted to not lose track of one of them, you would tag it's a ear so you could find it again later, right? So when something is coming up for you in the moment, a discomfort, a pain, a an uh, angst, anxiety, uh, road rage, whatever's coming up. In the moment.

In the now moment, you say, Judah, please tag and treat this. In all realms of time and space, treat everything associated to this. So like if your wife, let's say somebody has a controlling wife, uh, she's just being a little bit of a nag. Well, she might've never been a nag or never been controlling prior to meeting you.

Maybe your mom was extremely controlling. So you've got this belief, a subconscious belief that women are [00:30:00] controlling, women are nags, wives are nags. And so you marry a beautiful, loving, kind, precious woman who doesn't have a controlling bone in her body, but because you believe in your subconscious being that women are controlling their nags, she will ultimately become that, and you will reap that fruit in your life, but you become the thing you hate or you reap it in a mate.

Yeah, so if you can stop blaming your wife for being controlling and being a nag in this example I'm using, and instead look inside. What do I believe about women? What do I believe and when did this belief come to be in me? And, and just feel into that and say, Judah, or whoever your team of guides are, please tag and treat this in all realms of time and space and replace it with a positive, self empowering belief.

Like women, all the women in my life gimme the freedom to be who and what I am. [00:31:00] They let me do my thing and they support me in it, right? So that was a long answer to a really important question, Karen, and to anybody that's intrigued by what I'm saying. I would highly recommend signing up for Judah Treats or coming to one of our monthly Judah treats events because you can actually, everything we do at the Judah Channel is not to make you dependent on us, it's to empower you to do exactly what we're doing.

So when you're coming to. To us, like for one of these events, we want you to walk away actually knowing now how you are going to clear these subconscious beliefs for yourself.

Will & Karen: Hmm. And we're gonna add a link in our show notes so people can access, your platform easily. because to this day I still get Judah's daily quotes and I love them. So,

Anjie and Judah: I love them. Say that I really needed that.

Will & Karen: yeah. Yeah. you brought up a point that I think, I think I've gotta call out because it's really [00:32:00] fascinating to me the, the question of free will.

Because if now suddenly my mate becomes someone that she's not, isn't that a form of me bending that person to what my needs are instead of what, who they are, their free will? How does that, how, how do you justify that or not justify, but how do you, uh, align that in your thoughts?

Will: We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

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And now back to the skeptic meta physicians.

Hey, they're jumping in here. I think a lot of people have been waiting for this for a long time. We've been teasing the totem giveaways, um, for a little bit, and those that have entered into the drawing, there's one thing you haven't been able to do and you get a lot of entries for it, and that is to put in the secret code word.

Well, the secret code word is something that we are about to reveal right now and that is always say yes. That's it. You know what to do if you are in the inner circle, just go to, um, that giveaway and put in the secret code. Always say yes and you'll get 500 entries. That's a lot of entries. Alright, well good luck to you.

Let's get back to the show.[00:35:00]

Will & Karen: if now suddenly my mate becomes someone that she's not, isn't that a form of me bending that person to what my needs are instead of what, who they are, their free will? How does that, how, how do you justify that or not justify, but how do you, uh, align that in your thoughts?

Anjie and Judah: Yeah, this is about unconsciousness. So you see, if the young, sweet wife were conscious in the relationship, she would be aware that she was being defiled. Or or being. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Magnetized or Uhhuh to behave in a way that wasn't true to who and what she really is. However, she's not conscious of these dynamics of which we are speaking.

Yes. She could begin to morph into something that is not true. This is exactly what the ego is, what you are speaking of here. It's embedded in your question, how do we get. Um, how do we get tangled up in these dynamics? The ego is all about this. The ego is not an enemy. We want to say that. We don't want you to [00:36:00] polarize, uh, yourself with your ego.

The ego is simply the ways in which each and all of us adapt to life. It's the ways in which we sacrifice who and what we really are in order to survive our environment and our situations and our relationships and our cultures. I. And so on. And so the, the ego is basically an, an animalistic instinct of survival.

And so, yes. Uh, so become aware that you do have free will and, and become aware of, of these dynamics of which we speak. And then in, in that way, you can disentangle yourself from them. Yeah. So talking about free will, um. Have you ever seen a Jenga game? Do you know that little game with the wooden blocks?

You stack them on top?

Will & Karen: The most stressful game ever because you're waiting for it to top all over.

Anjie and Judah: Well, if you think of this game, like let's imagine a couple or a family maybe with a [00:37:00] child, uh, and so each one, each one presents their wooden block, their piece to this Jenga puzzle, and we all tend to adapt ourselves in order to accommodate one another. We give up parts of who we really are in order to, um.

To have peace in order to to thrive. Yeah. And so we can develop these ego structures. Yeah. And so let's say in the example we were talking about earlier, a husband and a wife and the, and the husband has these beliefs that women are nags and so she adapts, right? So if the woman becomes conscious, 'cause your, your question was, Ooh, what about free will?

Let's say she wakes up, she's conscious, she understands, she has free will in the relationship. She understands that, that this controlling way in which she's responding is not who and what she really is or who she wants to be. As she pulls her piece [00:38:00] out. Of the the Jenga game, then it allows for the ego structures and the way that she and her husband have adapted and maybe their children to one another with these ego strategies.

As she pulls it out, it gives the opportunity for the whole structure to collapse. We are all operating in ego, uh, in, in energetic entanglements all the time. We have these Jenga games at work. We have them in our families, we have them with our societies and so on. So we have to learn how to focus on ourself.

Minding our own business, being hands off with others and, and so in this situation, if the wife finds herself being a nag and being controlling, and she doesn't want to be that way, to have the presence and the consciousness to spend time in meditation. To address her part instead of pointing back. But if he would just da, da, da.

You [00:39:00] know, Judah has taught us no J-J-A-D-A justify, argue, defend, and explain. When we find ourself operating in j justifying, arguing, defending, or explaining, we know we're operating from an ego state. So if we can have the consciousness or presence am mind to stop and say, okay, what's going on? Judah, I'm really wanting to justify myself here.

I wanna argue, defend my point of view. Um, Judah, please tag and treat this, whatever this is in me, this ego part that's being triggered. Because the goal with the ego is to help it relax. It's not to amputate it, it's a hurting part. It's a part that, um, just like with a little girl in the earlier example, in the baby doll, she was hurt right in that moment.

I. She was hurt 'cause she didn't get what she wanted. And this is how children feel when they don't get what they want. And so it's not [00:40:00] that she's bad or the ego's evil, it's when we are hurt, we form judgements. And if these hurts continue, we have these really strongly held belief systems, those roots systems.

But if we'll address them right now, we will get free and then we'll have different fruit.

Will & Karen: You said a mouthful. Holy smokes. Oh my gosh. Um, I, I don't even, uh, I, I, so as a producer. I'm constantly thinking about, okay, what soundbites can I tag and use to help promote this episode? You just gave me like 15 of 'em and I don't know which ones I'm gonna be able to use. So, um, and in the meantime, I'm just applying all of this to my life. Oh, oh,

Anjie and Judah: SAS from this, uh, time.

Will & Karen: oh my gosh. Wow. I'm gonna, uh, move on to a different topic because I've got lots of questions that we're not gonna get to, but I wanna see if I can figure out which one makes the biggest bang for the buck right now. what is something [00:41:00] that we forget about ourselves that you or Judah wish we could remember every single day?

That's a good question. Okay.

Anjie and Judah: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We want you to know that you are, you are perfectly innocent in your consciousness, your true self, your higher self, your fifth dimensional self. Is perfect, is blameless, is innocent, is rightly aligned with source. Is love. You are love. You are love. You are love. You are love.

Anything that is not loving in you, in the way that you think or behave or maneuver in the world is not you. It is the ego. And the ego as, as Angie was saying earlier, is simply a way that you've adapted yourself in order to survive in the density of earth life, but it's not who you really are. This is like, um.

You are like a, a beautiful antique in a garage sale [00:42:00] and, and uhhuh, uhhuh, uhhuh, uhhuh, and people keep passing you by and will only give $5 or 10 for it. But underneath is something priceless, something extraordinary and, and why is it that you don't see what and who you really are because there are layers and layers and layers of paint.

Color upon color, layer upon layer, layer upon layer upon layer. And so the ego is this. It is the ways, these layers of paint, so to speak, on top of the beautiful perfection that you are. So allow these things to be stripped away and don't get discouraged in the process. Some of you say, oh no, there's more ego.

Darn, I thought I was done with this. Don't get discouraged. Keep going. Keep stripping off. What's not you. Take back your power from the people, places, and things that you've given it away to keep letting these shedding, shedding, shedding, shedding. Know this, know this, you are love, you are perfect. You are always in the realm of heaven, your higher dimensional [00:43:00] self.

We Judah, we are Angie's higher self. And we are only love, only joy. Only peace. We never judge. We never ever, ever judge anything. We never punish. We don't, we want you to never feel guilty about any choice. That you make, if you make a choice and you don't feel good about it, and you, the, the ego then will try to flip the, the, uh, the coin and cause you to feel guilt or shame about it.

And that's just more of the same. We say don't feel guilty about anything. Just decide, uh, who and what you want to be that is different. You are love, you are perfection. You are only goodness. Your wisdom, you are fully connected to source and angels. Anything that tells you otherwise is simply just another layer of paint, a subconscious belief, and an adaptation.

And if you allow these things to be stripped away, you will begin to see [00:44:00] yourself shining through is the perfection and the treasure that you are. You are a treasure. Uh, never, never ever do we want you to be burdened by anything. Move away from burdens. Move away from burdensome things, and if you can't move away because of the, the situation that you find yourself in, use it as your spiritual practice.

Say right here, right now. Right here, right now. I'm going to get free. I'm going to get free, and I'm going to be the loving, perfected, enlightened being that Judah said that I am for you are all enlightened. You are all enlightened beings. You are just in the process of remembering this and allowing yourself to be it, allowing your.

Self to be it. You are all Christ. You are all Buddhists. You are all Judahs. What is the purpose of [00:45:00] even a meeting like this and being in our presence at this time? When you come into the Judah field, the Christ consciousness field, the Buddha field, you begin to have insight. Ah, and you begin to say, oh, maybe yes, maybe, maybe, maybe I am more than I thought.

Maybe I can be. We are here to cast vision. To all of you to be this, the, the new human, not the homoerectus, but the homo.

Will & Karen: I love that Homo Spiritist. Yes. I'm gonna make a t-shirt. I'm a homo spiritist. Ah, it's beautiful. Uh, you know. Okay, so full disclosure. We did not share these questions with Judah, um, or Angie before the interview, and I'm trying really hard to trip them up, but you have the perfect answer for every question that I throw you away.

This is amazing. I mean, it, it's, I even gave you an out, I said if there's anything you don't want to answer. I mean, obviously I, while we were referring, I said tough, but [00:46:00] before I said, you know, give me a heads up and you haven't, you have answered every question that I had so far, perfectly. Like, I don't know how there could have been a better answer to that question.

No, no.

Anjie and Judah: Well, I, I'll, I'll let you in on a little insight too. Um, so as we are talking, when I open my eyes again, when I come out of channeling, I see a white mist all around you guys. It's so beautiful. It's like you're sitting inside of this white light cloud. I can see it with my physical eyes. I don't see it a lot, but every now and then I have that privilege.

And it's just a testament to if, if we will just do the work right of, of just the day-to-day practice, of surrender, of letting go, of loving, of being, kind of, of, of meditating. We, our, we can elevate ourselves into a state of consciousness where we get these really profound experiences and answers. The, and you guys deserve it.[00:47:00]

This is a reward for you today, the two of you for, for hanging in there. And just continuing on in your lovingness, in your lovingness and beingness.

Will & Karen: Oh, that means an incredible amount. Oh, you stuff every time there she goes. Every time. Tears always rolling every time. it took longer than usual this time, but there they are. Uh, Angie, thank you. My gosh. That, that's in incredible, and you know, more than most, some of the stuff that we've been through over the past, few years.

Mm-hmm. So you, you understand what a lot of this is coming from. We appreciate you saying that. And I'm glad that we have that white mis. At first I was like, uhoh. But it does feel like when I mentioned in the, in the intro teaser in the, the energy shifts every time we're together, there's this, it just, it, we just feels like we're in this containment, like this energetic bubble.

Uh, and it's, you feel it underneath your skin. Yeah. I just, I, I feel very full like. It's just amazing.

Anjie and Judah: It gives us [00:48:00] glimpses of, of being, you know, who being this beautiful, angelic people that we can be loving people.

Will & Karen: And, and I, I'm gonna say yes. All the, the answers that we're getting is absolutely for Karen. And I mean, we, we, I, we tell people all the time, we do the show for selfish reasons. That's for us, right? We do the show for us, but inevitably we get a lot of folks that reach out and say, oh my gosh, this is, that was incredible.

This is just what I needed. Thank you for making me feel normal. All these different things. So, to that point your answer just now, when you were talking about. Non-judgment of ourselves and things like that. We also have to think about that for others. Right there it is so easy to judge, fall into judgment of others in because you see them stuck in their ego or that you see them stumbling whatever, just as we are meant to not judge ourselves and understand what's happening and, and peeling back layers.

Everyone's going through their own personal

Anjie and Judah: Yes.

Will & Karen: And we have to be there to support them, not to judge them. That's, that's really important to call out, I think. 'cause I'm really bad at [00:49:00] that.

Anjie and Judah: Yeah. And I, I think one of the ways where we kind of can fall into that trap is not, uh, understanding exactly kind of how the levels of consciousness work, right? Like, um, for instance, the, the Komodo Dragon has a level of consciousness of 60, and what a Komodo do, dragon does is. When it, it sees its prey, it bites it, it poisons it, and then it eats it.

Okay? So we don't think of the Komodo dragon as being evil, right? We just think, oh, that's just what Komodo dragons do, right? So Hitler also had a level of consciousness of around 60

Will & Karen: Oh, no kidding. Really.

Anjie and Judah: Yeah. Yeah. So see, see where we get tripped up and why we judge people is because we're expecting them to operate in a different level of consciousness than where they are. We're not understanding that they're just being what they are. And Judah has taught yes, yes, we want to. Speak about that. Understand that everybody is doing the very best they can with a level of consciousness that they are [00:50:00] inhabiting at this moment in time. And there is no sin. The only sin is ignorance.

As the Christ said, father, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. So understand that everyone is doing exactly what is feels or seems right unto them based upon their level of consciousness. And so it is only, there's no need to judge because there is only this ignorance you see. So then when you go back to World War II example, right?

Winston Churchill was around 500 in the level of consciousness, which is in this realm of love, and it only took that one guy to step up and stop the whole thing.

Will & Karen: Right.

Anjie and Judah: Because he was operating from love, and you can't, you can't, um, have a debate or a diplomatic discussion with a Komodo dragon. It doesn't, it's not gonna happen. Right. So as we raise our level of consciousness and just insist to on loving, [00:51:00] insist on loving, insist on kindness, this is how we change the world. And so there's no need to judge. It's a waste of time. Everybody's doing exactly what they believe is right, based on their particular level of consciousness, and, and to them there, there is no discussion about it.

They, they are doing what they believe to be right. And so it, it's kind of like, wouldn't it be silly as a school teacher, right? If I was teaching, um, kindergarten, wouldn't it be silly if I expected my kindergartners to be able to do algebraic equations and I judged them if they couldn't do it? Or if I was a high school teacher and, um, you know, I had a five-year-old in my class and I was upset with them because they couldn't do the material, it, it doesn't make sense, right?

Will & Karen: Yeah, that, that's interesting. I just had a very similar conversation with our daughter. she was frustrated because in a math class, there is a student that is in kind of a, they get extra time because they're a little challenged [00:52:00] as far as they're learning methods and she was saying, well, it's not fair.

They got an extra, you know, 10 or 15 minutes to finish this test and then we didn't, and they can fix their things and we can't. And I said, well honey, you can't look at it that way because you have different capabilities. You can't compare her to you because math is easier for you, or your brain works in a way that that works better.

So I think it helped her a little bit to, to realize like. You have to really think also what the word fair means, and we just kind of got off onto these incredible tangents. But it was very similar. She was expecting or frustrated because this person, she felt unfairly was getting more time when they really didn't have, they didn't start on the same playing field.

Mm-hmm.

Anjie and Judah: Exactly.

Will & Karen: I, did I mention that I was gonna have a hard time picking out soundbites to use to promote this thing? It's like you slam the word of truth every time you just, you give a single answer. Just Andy, give me a bad answer. Just once. Not a bad answer, but one that, that isn't like, oh my god, level, right?

Because Komodo, that I'm totally gonna, I'm thinking [00:53:00] in about very recent past. People that have done things that would go, how could they possibly do that? Yeah. Oh my gosh. They're, that's their Komodo, that's their, that's their level and, and we, they're just being who they are. That's in that's, and, and even thinking on a grander scale, maybe what they're doing at their level is actually helping us because we're having all of these tensions right now because of something back to the slingshot.

But we, we need that tension in order to propel, so they're make having their part in our mass awakening Perfect. Full circle. That's incredible. Oh my gosh, Angie. Judah, we need you here a lot more. Uh, literally I got, I got two pages of, of questions and I got through four. for those that haven't yet been, uh, able to connect with you, what is the best way for someone to reach out and get connected?

Anjie and Judah: Yeah, well stop by and see us@thejuahchannel.com or the Judah Channel on YouTube. We have [00:54:00] lots of things for free. We do a live stream every Sunday night. On YouTube, um, we have a telegram feed. If you're looking for some spiritual community, a real, genuine family, that's more than just a social media feed where people are, you know, touting their, their side gigs, but really talking about.

These kinds of things and, and you can ask questions, get help from wise people. We have what we call the Mamas and Papas on the feed. They're people that we have trained, um, that are really high flying folks, wise folks that you can ask for assistance from. Um, so we have that to offer. We have lots of different free offerings, and then we have, um, our seminal course, the TrueU Accelerator course, which is so life changing.

Um, most people that take that course wind up channeling their own Judah before that course is finished. And it's, it is just a really, it's, it's everything I've got. I put the whole kitchen sink into the course to, if you're a person that's. On an [00:55:00] awakening journey, and you have a dream of being this person that Judah described, then come join us in, in the course.

And, um, it, it's a, it's a powerful experience. You, you'll be different on the other side of it. Most people get a, a pretty major bump in their level of consciousness from the course.

Will & Karen: I'm really glad you mentioned that because, uh, I, I would have been remiss have we not touched on it. Well, how long is that course? I

Anjie and Judah: Well, we offer it two different ways. We have a self study and it's, it's put in a 10 week format, but you can take all the time you need, you have lifetime access to it. And honestly, there's so much in there that most people, so we have some folks that actually do it over again every year, uh, and. 'cause there's so much in it.

And then we also have the journey of the true you. We, we've got one coming up in September and in that one you get two private sessions with me and Judah and you get the everything that we have [00:56:00] to offer. The Judah treats the course and we have classes together and we have, um, a cohort of other seekers, you know, in the class that you'll get to be friends with around the world and have.

Access to support and, and I answer your questions as you go through the, through, um, the class. And we do that in 12 weeks. And we also do, we have a healing with Judah every week in that class. You get an hour where you can present whatever's coming up for you. Uh, pain hurt, these subconscious beliefs. Um, disease, uh, financial problems, whatever's coming up for you within the course.

Judah will treat it for you right then and there in the course, in the classroom. Class time.

Will & Karen: Oh, that is incredible. And if her answers and Judah's answers this. Episode was not enough. For you to convince you to reach out to her. There are two other episodes that you can actually reach back and get the wisdom from. Literally every time we talk to you, Angie, we are, our mouths are [00:57:00] on the floor.

Mm-hmm. Uh, because, you don't just answer things lightly. You get to the. Root of them, and you help us to become better people. So thank you. And it's such a joyful, loving, and emphatic way. Yes, yes. The energy is just so we talk about it every time. It's like blows us over the energy that Juda brings with 'em.

It's just incredible. So, Angie, is there anything, any last minute words of wisdom that you wanna make sure that you impart before we say goodbye today?

Anjie and Judah: Well, let's just ask Juda if they have a, a goodbye

Will & Karen: Okay.

Anjie and Judah: syl or something, or a joke maybe, who knows? Well, dear and precious ones all around the world, we love you so very dearly. Call our name and there we will be. Yes, and even before you formulated the prayer or the intention, we are there, uh, taking action and responding.

We want to to be there as a loving midwife for you to birth in you, the beauty and perfection that you are, and also to help you connect. With your own [00:58:00] beautiful angels and guides and, and establish your own relationships with your cosmic friends and big brothers and sisters that support you, you, you are okay.

We want you to know wherever you are today, you are okay. If you are feeling in the depths of despair or, or in the highest of heights, we, we will meet you right there where you are. Be you in heaven or be you in hell. God is there. We are there. You are okay, and you, you are mm, moving in the right direction and we encourage you to keep showing up with this beautiful couple for you will find in this container called the skeptic meta physician.

There is much wisdom and insight for the living of your life. We love you. We love you. We love you. We are prepared and ready to serve you. This vessel has created, uh, many loving resources for your best and highest [00:59:00] good, and we look forward to getting to know you.

Will & Karen: Judah, thank you so much. You just created our next skeptic musicians promo reel slam talk about mic drop. Alright, Angie, thank you so much Judah, thank you so much for coming on the show once again. We will definitely see you again really soon because we got lots more questions. Uh, and thank you for helping us to become better people.

Anjie and Judah: Thank you guys.

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